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Did anyone watch this last night? I would say spoilers below, but since its the first episode it kinda stands to reason that the ONLY thing to talk about happened in that 1 episode so...
OK, I think the Atlantis part of it was interesting. I mean who doesn't think anything involving Atlantis would be cool right? I think its a good plot point for the story that they are sort of stuck there until they can find a power source to bring them home. A lot of things about the pilot and the show itself sort of annoyed me though.
1) Was I the only person upon seeing these "wraith" things that instantly thought "Morlock's" from H.G. Wells Time machine? It totally fit. Skin color. Sort of telepathic ability to take over their prey. And they go around hunting the weaker race, in this case the people of the village. Oh, and they eat people too.
2) I'm sure the context will turn out somewhat different, but watching the image of the "ancients" woman giving her little speech was vorlon-esque and how they discovered a "dark enemy". Sounds familiar. While I am sure its not gonna turn out to be order versus chaos, it is a familiar story.
3) I've got somewhat of an issue about how Stargate series throw around things being super old to make them sound cool. So this Atlantis city was 1,000,000 years or more old. And basically the ancients were humans, but with more advanced tech. And they sort of seeded the Earth (or was it they came from earth and seeded the pegasus galaxy)? Either way apparently the city survived for well, a million minus a few tenthousand years until they got attacked and returned to earth and these "ancients" lived among us telling us about atlantis, but obviously couldnt share their godly-hood so they just blended in and disappeared.
I just have in issue with something being that old and nothing really happening for that period of time.
4) I also think its B5-esque about how the "wraiths come around every few thousand years" and that the last great visit came 10,000 years ago. God DAMN that sounds familiar.
5) If these wraith people are 1,000,000 old as well, and apparently can live near forever, they haven't really became super-evolved either since we can get in and out of their bases without harm pretty easily. I realize many of them were sleeping, but still, can you say defense system? Shit at least the Vorlons for being millions of years old kept people away from their entire planet with ease...
I think the show could be cool. One thing B5 did well when dealing with million+ year old races who had tech so far ahead of us, was admitted we could NEVER beat them by arms alone, that the answer had to be reasoned which it was. I think Stargate is not that kind of show. I think it will be action oriented and they will be fighting these wraiths with weapons. I just HOPE TO GOD they dont go around with freakin machineguns shooting them down. A good story would be to use all the "ancients" tech in Atlantis to fight them. That at least would be cool.
But was I the only one that groaned when the Major guy shot down a wraith ship with his machinegun? YOU ARE FREAKIN A MILLION YEARS OLD and you havent been able to make a ship that can withstand an 18th century projectile weapon? *sigh*
I also was a bit annoyed at how these ancients disappeared back to earth and are apparently gone. One would think if their city was impenatrable they would have stuck around. Maybe in later seasons of this show some will appear though. It still just strikes me as odd though, that they were more advanced, but they were the first generation of humans and we are the second? I just think in a million years we would have genetically advanced a lot more than that...
Anyone else have thoughts? I think the series will be interesting, but the pilot seemed like a cross between Greek myth, and HG Wells novel, with some undertones of the Shadow War.
OK, I think the Atlantis part of it was interesting. I mean who doesn't think anything involving Atlantis would be cool right? I think its a good plot point for the story that they are sort of stuck there until they can find a power source to bring them home. A lot of things about the pilot and the show itself sort of annoyed me though.
1) Was I the only person upon seeing these "wraith" things that instantly thought "Morlock's" from H.G. Wells Time machine? It totally fit. Skin color. Sort of telepathic ability to take over their prey. And they go around hunting the weaker race, in this case the people of the village. Oh, and they eat people too.
2) I'm sure the context will turn out somewhat different, but watching the image of the "ancients" woman giving her little speech was vorlon-esque and how they discovered a "dark enemy". Sounds familiar. While I am sure its not gonna turn out to be order versus chaos, it is a familiar story.
3) I've got somewhat of an issue about how Stargate series throw around things being super old to make them sound cool. So this Atlantis city was 1,000,000 years or more old. And basically the ancients were humans, but with more advanced tech. And they sort of seeded the Earth (or was it they came from earth and seeded the pegasus galaxy)? Either way apparently the city survived for well, a million minus a few tenthousand years until they got attacked and returned to earth and these "ancients" lived among us telling us about atlantis, but obviously couldnt share their godly-hood so they just blended in and disappeared.
I just have in issue with something being that old and nothing really happening for that period of time.
4) I also think its B5-esque about how the "wraiths come around every few thousand years" and that the last great visit came 10,000 years ago. God DAMN that sounds familiar.
5) If these wraith people are 1,000,000 old as well, and apparently can live near forever, they haven't really became super-evolved either since we can get in and out of their bases without harm pretty easily. I realize many of them were sleeping, but still, can you say defense system? Shit at least the Vorlons for being millions of years old kept people away from their entire planet with ease...
I think the show could be cool. One thing B5 did well when dealing with million+ year old races who had tech so far ahead of us, was admitted we could NEVER beat them by arms alone, that the answer had to be reasoned which it was. I think Stargate is not that kind of show. I think it will be action oriented and they will be fighting these wraiths with weapons. I just HOPE TO GOD they dont go around with freakin machineguns shooting them down. A good story would be to use all the "ancients" tech in Atlantis to fight them. That at least would be cool.
But was I the only one that groaned when the Major guy shot down a wraith ship with his machinegun? YOU ARE FREAKIN A MILLION YEARS OLD and you havent been able to make a ship that can withstand an 18th century projectile weapon? *sigh*
I also was a bit annoyed at how these ancients disappeared back to earth and are apparently gone. One would think if their city was impenatrable they would have stuck around. Maybe in later seasons of this show some will appear though. It still just strikes me as odd though, that they were more advanced, but they were the first generation of humans and we are the second? I just think in a million years we would have genetically advanced a lot more than that...
Anyone else have thoughts? I think the series will be interesting, but the pilot seemed like a cross between Greek myth, and HG Wells novel, with some undertones of the Shadow War.
