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SG-1 Season 8 Discussion Thread
Here's a thread for the discussion of Stargate S8. The series begins it's new season Friday night on the SFC in an explosive two hour episode.
07-08-2004 10:34 PM
Ystros
keeper of the Dark
Ooooh, fresh thread.
Looking forward to it. Especially after the preview that played on Monday, which upped my hopes for this season and further shot down my hopes for Atlantis.
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07-08-2004 10:45 PM
ShadowmageGalen
Senior Lurker
And so it begins....again (SPOILERS)
I don't know about anyone else, but we thought it rocked!!!
I am watching it again as I type. I am curious to see where these new roads lead.
If our asylumed boy can provide useful info, it could give some real insights into the System Lords. Yu's first prime again shows sense and honor, and I think he could form an alliance with the SGC after Yu finally succumbs, if not sooner.
The Daniel Jackson did not suffer the same fate as the O'Neill, at least not yet.
The Asgaard are safe for the time being, and can hopefully provide a more active presence in the season.
And Baal will be an interesting enemy. The negotiations were very interesting, and a nice setup to that storyline while the main story unfolded with the Replicators.
And the Replicators have been sufficiently wounded to have to retreat. This provides a way for them to pop in at any time to cause problems. But the Asgaard can defend themselves to an extent. It will be interesting to see how the bugs adapt.
Humor was injected at the right moments, and there were some lines I found funny that may not have been intended to be. Like when Sam told Fifth about compassion and he replied he wasn't there yet. I just found it funny the way it was delivered.
Teal'c and a shotgun just go together. FPS hunting replicators would be great.
We were both very happy with it, and really enjoyed it.
Maybe more later. It's good to have SG back.
SmG
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07-10-2004 12:36 AM
Kosh III
We Are All Kosh
I enjoyed nearly all of it. Great!
It was nice to see hunky Steve Bacic in a role which allowed him to act, as opposed to his mindless Nietzchean role as second fiddle to idiot Sorbo in Andromeda. I hope to see more of him.
I really enjoyed the banter between Dr. Jackson and the now departed dirctor. The bit about Yu's name was great.
I am glad RDA is a general now, but I liked the new woman director. Is she moving to Atlantis?
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"A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death." Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., April 4, 1967
07-12-2004 09:58 AM
Seanahan
Ambassador
She is moving to Atlantis.
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07-12-2004 06:26 PM
ShadowmageGalen
Senior Lurker
New Order sets new records
Check out Gateworld! And I am sure SFC's website will be touting it if they haven't already.
New Order got a 2.4!!! Over 3.2 million viewers!!
Big congrats to the SG crew. And all those eyes to see the Farscape and BSG promos. Good news for those programs as well.
SmG
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07-13-2004 12:58 AM
Joe Alias
Junior Lurker
I hope they can keep building on this momentum. The first two hours were fantastic.
But the talent and brain trust pools are going to be stretched pretty thin this year. It's no secret RDA isn't on set full time these days, so they chemistry on screen is going to change at least a little. They managed to live with it last year, but at times it was pretty noticeable. Now that O'Neill's behind a desk, they don't have to keep coming up with plausible reasons why Jack isn't in the scene (arm in a sling, watching over D. Jackson, etc.). That being said, he still won't be around full time.
Secondly, the brain trust is now running TWO hour-long, FX-laden shows. Can they cut themselves in half, and still maintain the same quality?
I sure hope so! SG-1 has become my favorite show, and if the first episode(s) coming out of the box is any indication, it will continue to be.
07-13-2004 09:09 AM
Ystros
keeper of the Dark
Very good start (SPOILERS)
"New Order" is definitely a return to form. Best season premiere since "Small Victories" (which not so coincidentally involved replicators).
I hope the Goa'uld defector becomes somewhat of a semi-regular. My fear is that they'll bring him back for one episode where he wreaks havoc internally at the SGC and gets killed/escapes. They can do that (eventually), but they can draw out other stories from his character before that.
I'm in complete agreement with Joe Alias that putting Jack behind a desk will make his absence less noticeable - one of the worst things about season 7 was the weekly "Let's get O'Neill out of commission to work around RDA" vibe. They didn't get it right until near the end.
Dr. Weirr is much less irritating now. Maybe it was the original actress that bugged me and not the character itself.
I loved the way the Replicators turned tail and ran as soon as they saw what the wave beam weapon does. They'll probably figure out a way around it by modifying how each cell communicates with the others, though that will probably still leave old Replicators vunerable. Not to mention they practically control Thor's galaxy (and probably others given the 5th season premiere). Fifth makes a very creepy villain.
Only two things I didn't like about the episode. First, the "dream" sequence with Sam was too obvious - both to the character and the audience - and therefore was a waste of time. They could have significantly shortened that portion and put that time to better use (I would have liked to seen a bit more coverage of the treaty talks and of the defector). Second, the end "twist" was way too predictable. And I'm not sure what sort of stories they expect to get out of it. Does Replicator Carter really make the Replicator threat any more insidious?
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07-13-2004 01:09 PM
Ranger
Vorlon (Admin)
More good than bad
Well I sat back and watched you guys discuss before I threw in my hat this time. And I see that I am the odd man out of the ring.
I didn't mind this ep but it was far from being a great two hour event. I think that the show is evolving and that is a good thing. Great pains were taken to make Jack's and Sam's moves look natural. And it makes sense that both would be promoted at some point as they have saved the planet dozens of times. I also like the direction that it forces the writing team to go into now. We have all discussed the tendency of Jack to "Quip First and Shoot It Later". At times in S5 and S6 it got to be almost too comical that Jack seemed to fall into this two dimentional characature. Now the team has to adjust to a new dynamic, just like when Jonas joined the team, and that's refreshing to me.
I do not like the new Dr. Weir.. I like the character but I don't like the actress. The fact that she is moving on to Atlantis is a mark against it I am sad to say. But Atlantis will be diferent and it is possible that she was cast in that role for SGA vs. SG1.
The Fifth angle is creepy. Stalker creepy.. When Fifth found out that he could not keep Sam in a box .. he went out and made a Buffybot of her for his very own. Eeewww..
I agree with Ystros on the direction of that story as well. Is this going to be a DS9 Founders story where blood screenings need to happen or is this a Voyager thing where alternates of the crew upset the balance of the galaxy? Maybe it's none of the above and they will take it in a totally diferent direction. Either way we know the Bugs aren't completly gone. Three cheers for the scene at the Black Hole though.
I have a thought about our new resident System Lord. I think he is a spy for the others. Yes Bahl is kicking butt and we still have that bit where the SL are eating larva to survive, however, they have no other way to find out what Earth has or how Inubus was defeated. Leaving one behind is one of the only ways they can slip someone into the SGC undetected.. outside of a far side planet landing.
Chances are that the To'kra will have something to say about the balance of power and our new found status as a serious power. We better start getting a fleet of 303s together soon because Earth's space is going to get pretty crowded with on lookers.
One thing that struck me was the performances. All of the main cast came to play. It's nice to see a SF cast not at each others throats for a show that has been on as long as theirs. I am sure the SFC is now pressing for S9 and S10 even as we speak. In fact.. I would not be surprised to see SG1 drop to 13 or 15 episodes very soon after S8 due to cost, cast and scheduling. The mini series or the shortened run is becoming very popular thanks to HBO and Showtime. So I expect USA and SFC to follow as they tend to emulate the pay channels in their desires for programming.
And I see that little has been said on the net in general about Chia Te'Lc's hair. I don't mind it really. It's a lot better than the beard from a few seasons ago that's for sure.
07-13-2004 02:34 PM
I thought it would be an interesting experiment to keep all the discussion concerning a particular show in one thread.
Ranger
Vorlon (Admin)
SG-1 Season 8 Discussion Thread
Here's a thread for the discussion of Stargate S8. The series begins it's new season Friday night on the SFC in an explosive two hour episode.
07-08-2004 10:34 PM
Ystros
keeper of the Dark
Ooooh, fresh thread.
Looking forward to it. Especially after the preview that played on Monday, which upped my hopes for this season and further shot down my hopes for Atlantis.
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07-08-2004 10:45 PM
ShadowmageGalen
Senior Lurker
And so it begins....again (SPOILERS)
I don't know about anyone else, but we thought it rocked!!!
I am watching it again as I type. I am curious to see where these new roads lead.
If our asylumed boy can provide useful info, it could give some real insights into the System Lords. Yu's first prime again shows sense and honor, and I think he could form an alliance with the SGC after Yu finally succumbs, if not sooner.
The Daniel Jackson did not suffer the same fate as the O'Neill, at least not yet.
The Asgaard are safe for the time being, and can hopefully provide a more active presence in the season.
And Baal will be an interesting enemy. The negotiations were very interesting, and a nice setup to that storyline while the main story unfolded with the Replicators.
And the Replicators have been sufficiently wounded to have to retreat. This provides a way for them to pop in at any time to cause problems. But the Asgaard can defend themselves to an extent. It will be interesting to see how the bugs adapt.
Humor was injected at the right moments, and there were some lines I found funny that may not have been intended to be. Like when Sam told Fifth about compassion and he replied he wasn't there yet. I just found it funny the way it was delivered.
Teal'c and a shotgun just go together. FPS hunting replicators would be great.
We were both very happy with it, and really enjoyed it.
Maybe more later. It's good to have SG back.
SmG
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OUT ... of fashion.
07-10-2004 12:36 AM
Kosh III
We Are All Kosh
I enjoyed nearly all of it. Great!
It was nice to see hunky Steve Bacic in a role which allowed him to act, as opposed to his mindless Nietzchean role as second fiddle to idiot Sorbo in Andromeda. I hope to see more of him.
I really enjoyed the banter between Dr. Jackson and the now departed dirctor. The bit about Yu's name was great.
I am glad RDA is a general now, but I liked the new woman director. Is she moving to Atlantis?
__________________
"Faith Manages"
"A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death." Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., April 4, 1967
07-12-2004 09:58 AM
Seanahan
Ambassador
She is moving to Atlantis.
__________________
"Tis not too late to seek a newer world"
07-12-2004 06:26 PM
ShadowmageGalen
Senior Lurker
New Order sets new records
Check out Gateworld! And I am sure SFC's website will be touting it if they haven't already.
New Order got a 2.4!!! Over 3.2 million viewers!!
Big congrats to the SG crew. And all those eyes to see the Farscape and BSG promos. Good news for those programs as well.
SmG
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The truth IS...
OUT ... of fashion.
07-13-2004 12:58 AM
Joe Alias
Junior Lurker
I hope they can keep building on this momentum. The first two hours were fantastic.
But the talent and brain trust pools are going to be stretched pretty thin this year. It's no secret RDA isn't on set full time these days, so they chemistry on screen is going to change at least a little. They managed to live with it last year, but at times it was pretty noticeable. Now that O'Neill's behind a desk, they don't have to keep coming up with plausible reasons why Jack isn't in the scene (arm in a sling, watching over D. Jackson, etc.). That being said, he still won't be around full time.
Secondly, the brain trust is now running TWO hour-long, FX-laden shows. Can they cut themselves in half, and still maintain the same quality?
I sure hope so! SG-1 has become my favorite show, and if the first episode(s) coming out of the box is any indication, it will continue to be.
07-13-2004 09:09 AM
Ystros
keeper of the Dark
Very good start (SPOILERS)
"New Order" is definitely a return to form. Best season premiere since "Small Victories" (which not so coincidentally involved replicators).
I hope the Goa'uld defector becomes somewhat of a semi-regular. My fear is that they'll bring him back for one episode where he wreaks havoc internally at the SGC and gets killed/escapes. They can do that (eventually), but they can draw out other stories from his character before that.
I'm in complete agreement with Joe Alias that putting Jack behind a desk will make his absence less noticeable - one of the worst things about season 7 was the weekly "Let's get O'Neill out of commission to work around RDA" vibe. They didn't get it right until near the end.
Dr. Weirr is much less irritating now. Maybe it was the original actress that bugged me and not the character itself.
I loved the way the Replicators turned tail and ran as soon as they saw what the wave beam weapon does. They'll probably figure out a way around it by modifying how each cell communicates with the others, though that will probably still leave old Replicators vunerable. Not to mention they practically control Thor's galaxy (and probably others given the 5th season premiere). Fifth makes a very creepy villain.
Only two things I didn't like about the episode. First, the "dream" sequence with Sam was too obvious - both to the character and the audience - and therefore was a waste of time. They could have significantly shortened that portion and put that time to better use (I would have liked to seen a bit more coverage of the treaty talks and of the defector). Second, the end "twist" was way too predictable. And I'm not sure what sort of stories they expect to get out of it. Does Replicator Carter really make the Replicator threat any more insidious?
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07-13-2004 01:09 PM
Ranger
Vorlon (Admin)
More good than bad
Well I sat back and watched you guys discuss before I threw in my hat this time. And I see that I am the odd man out of the ring.
I didn't mind this ep but it was far from being a great two hour event. I think that the show is evolving and that is a good thing. Great pains were taken to make Jack's and Sam's moves look natural. And it makes sense that both would be promoted at some point as they have saved the planet dozens of times. I also like the direction that it forces the writing team to go into now. We have all discussed the tendency of Jack to "Quip First and Shoot It Later". At times in S5 and S6 it got to be almost too comical that Jack seemed to fall into this two dimentional characature. Now the team has to adjust to a new dynamic, just like when Jonas joined the team, and that's refreshing to me.
I do not like the new Dr. Weir.. I like the character but I don't like the actress. The fact that she is moving on to Atlantis is a mark against it I am sad to say. But Atlantis will be diferent and it is possible that she was cast in that role for SGA vs. SG1.
The Fifth angle is creepy. Stalker creepy.. When Fifth found out that he could not keep Sam in a box .. he went out and made a Buffybot of her for his very own. Eeewww..
I agree with Ystros on the direction of that story as well. Is this going to be a DS9 Founders story where blood screenings need to happen or is this a Voyager thing where alternates of the crew upset the balance of the galaxy? Maybe it's none of the above and they will take it in a totally diferent direction. Either way we know the Bugs aren't completly gone. Three cheers for the scene at the Black Hole though.
I have a thought about our new resident System Lord. I think he is a spy for the others. Yes Bahl is kicking butt and we still have that bit where the SL are eating larva to survive, however, they have no other way to find out what Earth has or how Inubus was defeated. Leaving one behind is one of the only ways they can slip someone into the SGC undetected.. outside of a far side planet landing.
Chances are that the To'kra will have something to say about the balance of power and our new found status as a serious power. We better start getting a fleet of 303s together soon because Earth's space is going to get pretty crowded with on lookers.
One thing that struck me was the performances. All of the main cast came to play. It's nice to see a SF cast not at each others throats for a show that has been on as long as theirs. I am sure the SFC is now pressing for S9 and S10 even as we speak. In fact.. I would not be surprised to see SG1 drop to 13 or 15 episodes very soon after S8 due to cost, cast and scheduling. The mini series or the shortened run is becoming very popular thanks to HBO and Showtime. So I expect USA and SFC to follow as they tend to emulate the pay channels in their desires for programming.
And I see that little has been said on the net in general about Chia Te'Lc's hair. I don't mind it really. It's a lot better than the beard from a few seasons ago that's for sure.
07-13-2004 02:34 PM