Shadow Ship?

[Emfeeli]

Several times throughout Crusade we see a shadow-like (at the very least dark-organic) vessel destroy Gideons' original destroyer. Any guesses to what it might be? It is obviously very powerful considering it took out the destroyer with one concentrated volley (it was also quite massive). Its' unprovoked attack is somewhat mysterious, considering we have never heard of the species before. Why attack that perticular destroyer? Did Gideon have the apocalypse box at the time, and if so, maybe that is what drew the ship in. My best guess is that they were servants of the shadows similar to the drakh, but they seemed just as powerful as their masters (if that is the case).

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[drakh]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Emfeeli:
Several times throughout Crusade we see a shadow-like (at the very least dark-organic) vessel destroy Gideons' original destroyer. Any guesses to what it might be?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>This was revealed in the unproduced season ender End of the Line, and in the Technomage books.

<table bgcolor=black><tr><td bgcolor=black><font size=1 color=white>Spoiler:</font></td></tr><tr><td><font size=2 color=black>It's a shadowtech hybrid ship built by a secret Earth Force project. The one that destroyed Gideons ship was a prototype that went out of control while they were testing it.</font></td></tr></table>



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[drakh]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Emfeeli:
Did Gideon have the apocalypse box at the time, and if so, maybe that is what drew the ship in.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Nope. He got that later. IIRC he's an ensign on the Cerberus and a Lieutenant when he gets the box, and if he did have the box on the Cerberus it would have been lost when the ship exploded.


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[Emfeeli]

That ship looked nothing like the elite omega destroyers that were loyal to clark. It looked much funkier. Whats up with that?

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-Harlan Ellison quoting James Branch Cabell

 

[Demonn]

The Omega X's had shadow tech grafted on to them. The shadow hybrid was a hole new thing.

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[Darth Vader]

I hope earth has more shadow hybrid ships

That would kick ass!

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[Demonn]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR> Posted by Darth Vader:
I hope earth has more shadow hybrid ships
That would kick ass! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think they made like three of them, but they were all eventually destroyed. In my opinion EA should consentrate more on building Warlock Destroyers (they kick ass).

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[drakh]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by War-Demon:
I think they made like three of them, but they were all eventually destroyed.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Um... In End of the Line

<table bgcolor=black><tr><td bgcolor=black><font size=1 color=white>Spoiler:</font></td></tr><tr><td><font size=2 color=black>Gideon discovers a whole factory that's building them!</font></td></tr></table>



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[Demonn]

Well thanx for that ray of sunshine... drakh

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[bakana]

There is a pretty good chance that, after Excalibur finds the First (false) cure for the plague and "goes rogue" it will be because they discover something Ugly about the people in Earthforce who are Building the new Shadowships.

That is my best guess at what JMS was building up to. He wouldn't be introducing those ships in Season One unless he were planning to Use them in Season TWO.
For something.

And, since they are Shadow Tech, we can probably assume it was obtained by Clarke's allies.
We already know they discovered the First Shadow Vessel on Mars before Babylon 5 was ever built. So, this project has been going on for a While.
IPX is most likely involved, too.
After all, they were the ones who Controlled the dig that found the first Shadow ship on Mars, followed it to Z'Ha'Dum and probably Woke Up the Shadows.

I say Probably woke up the Shadows because it could have been Digging Up that first ship that woke them up.
Or they could have already been awake and stage managed the discovery on Mars.



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[TheInfection]

Somewhere (here?) was said that the cure wouldn't be exactly what it seems and Earthforce would ingnore the warning of Gideon and rest of the crew. And that would escalate the problems between Excalibur and Earthforce even more.

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[whitestar90]

It would have been awesome to see more abilities of the hybrid. Just how far EA black ops had gone with shadow tech we may never know (please insert here Damm TNT) for not having wisdom and foresight....

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Kosh-"In fire"

 

[Emfeeli]

Warlock cruisers did kick ass. Anyone have any info on them? any nice pics? Damn they were sweet.

Philip Voss NYC
A sad day for all

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[Delbert]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bakana:

We already know they discovered the First Shadow Vessel on Mars before Babylon 5 was ever built. So, this project has been going on for a While.
IPX is most likely involved, too.
After all, they were the ones who Controlled the dig that found the first Shadow ship on Mars, followed it to Z'Ha'Dum and probably Woke Up the Shadows.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Which makes me wonder if this would have been a major part of Eilerson's character development. After all, not only is he IPX, but he's from Mars - could he possibly have been part of the IPX team that found that Shadow vessel? Then again, in the broadcast episodes we have seen Eilerson beginning to act for the greater good over his personal gain and company loyalty, amending reports to the company to say that nothing of value was found (can't remember the episode at the moment!).

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[Cern]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Emfeeli:
Warlock cruisers did kick ass. Anyone have any info on them? any nice pics? Damn they were sweet.

Philip Voss NYC
A sad day for all

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http://gamma.nic.fi/~spusa/kuvat/wwc/WarlockFleet.jpg
http://gamma.nic.fi/~spusa/kuvat/wwc/Dub.jpg
http://gamma.nic.fi/~spusa/kuvat/wwc/ea_patrol.jpg
http://gamma.nic.fi/~spusa/kuvat/wwc/XOD_Arrives.jpg


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[drakh]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Delbert:
Then again, in the broadcast episodes we have seen Eilerson beginning to act for the greater good over his personal gain and company loyalty, amending reports to the company to say that nothing of value was found (can't remember the episode at the moment!).<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>The Well of Forever



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[KoshN]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Delbert:
Then again, in the broadcast episodes we have seen Eilerson beginning to act for the greater good over his personal gain and company loyalty, amending reports to the company to say that nothing of value was found (can't remember the episode at the moment!).

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Patterns of the Soul



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"Babylon 5 - The Legend of the Rangers"
January 2, 2002 on The Sci-Fi Channel.
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[drakh]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by KoshN:
Patterns of the Soul<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Of course.. Must remeber to put in the working brain next time.



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[KoshN]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by drakh:

Originally posted by KoshN:
Patterns of the Soul<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Of course.. Must remeber to put in the working brain next time.

"The Well of Forever" was an easy one to jump to. In that one, IIRC, Eilerson's files were wiped out by "technostatic disarray."


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"Babylon 5 - The Legend of the Rangers"
January 2, 2002 on The Sci-Fi Channel.
http://www.scifi.com/b5rangers/

 

[GideonsMine]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by drakh:

Originally posted by Delbert:
Then again, in the broadcast episodes we have seen Eilerson beginning to act for the greater good over his personal gain and company loyalty, amending reports to the company to say that nothing of value was found (can't remember the episode at the moment!).<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>The Well of Forever

I don't think Well of Forever is correct. Isn't that where they deposit the essense of Isabelle?

Max can't get anything from there, the computer screen goes blank and destroys all the info on what is on the rock. The one thing Max could not have.

He showed his compassion a couple of times. Nothing of value on the planet with the humans and Dureena's race. He starts the report, then changes his mind and reports nothing of value. I don't know the name of that one.

Peeps, shoot me when the war is over for my stupidity here, but what does IIRC mean?

I just keep staring at my puter screen wondering . . .


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[This message has been edited by GideonsMine (edited September 20, 2001).]