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Elizar: Evil Murderer, or Visionary?
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Lyta
Moderator
Hmm, I haven't made up my mind about him. I have a couple chapters left of the last book (I am slow I know!) so I think I will hold off commenting until I finished it. /forums/images/icons/wink.gif
BTW, doesn't this go more in General than Crusade since we are talking about a character in a novel that doesn't have to do with Crusade other than he was Galen's nemisis? /forums/images/icons/tongue.gif *scratches her head*
BTW, doesn't this go more in General than Crusade since we are talking about a character in a novel that doesn't have to do with Crusade other than he was Galen's nemisis? /forums/images/icons/tongue.gif *scratches her head*
KoshN
Super Moderator
Actually, I don't think he was ever mentioned by name in Crusade. He was mentioned only in the Technomage trilogy.
BTW, you know who reminds me of Razeel? Drusilla (Juliet Landau) from Buffy. I think both she and Elizar were insane, though Razeel was more insane than Elizar.
BTW, you know who reminds me of Razeel? Drusilla (Juliet Landau) from Buffy. I think both she and Elizar were insane, though Razeel was more insane than Elizar.
never heard the name Elizar in all of Crusade, including the unfilmed scripts, the only mages ever talked about were Alwyn, Elric, and Galen, there was also that mage that died along time ago but made that AI to be in his place, he wasn't mentioned by name, and had been dead too long to be Elizar.
His actual name wasn't mentioned, but it was said "Isabelle, we've been sold out by three of our own kind." and "I have no surviving enemies.
Any way... I don't think He wanted all the power for himself. He wanted to make the Mages something more than a legend, a force strong in the galaxy.
Any way... I don't think He wanted all the power for himself. He wanted to make the Mages something more than a legend, a force strong in the galaxy.
B5_Obsessed
Regular
G'Shans posted:
"there was also that mage that died along time ago but made that AI to be in his place, he wasn't mentioned by name..."
Oddly enough, I believe I saw somewhere that his name was "Dirk" (I kid you not).
And for the record, Elizar lied so often I don't think he even knew the truth anymore. Every time he swore he was Galen's friend, spikes usually came flying. He kept professing to be doing good but not a single one of his actions bore it out. He and all of his conspirators were vicious killers; especially the Centauri Tillar, who had a bit too much of Cartagia's enjoyment of "wet work".
"there was also that mage that died along time ago but made that AI to be in his place, he wasn't mentioned by name..."
Oddly enough, I believe I saw somewhere that his name was "Dirk" (I kid you not).
And for the record, Elizar lied so often I don't think he even knew the truth anymore. Every time he swore he was Galen's friend, spikes usually came flying. He kept professing to be doing good but not a single one of his actions bore it out. He and all of his conspirators were vicious killers; especially the Centauri Tillar, who had a bit too much of Cartagia's enjoyment of "wet work".
crazybillyo
Regular
I'd have to say Evil Murderer.
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Ooooohhhh... we're talking about the character Elizar from the trilogy. My mistake. /forums/images/icons/grin.gif /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif
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Ooooohhhh... we're talking about the character Elizar from the trilogy. My mistake. /forums/images/icons/grin.gif /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif
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Aren't all nuts a little visionary?
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You have a point! /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif Well, ok, he wasn't a peacefull baby kisser, but he was trying to bring glory back to the mages. So, you owe him a little credit.
Aren't all nuts a little visionary?
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You have a point! /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif Well, ok, he wasn't a peacefull baby kisser, but he was trying to bring glory back to the mages. So, you owe him a little credit.
