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I won't argue with "receding", as far as TV goes. But these things always go in cycles, and it's receding from one of its all-time highs. Give it a few years and the TV marketplace will have changed dramatically. Whether it'll be any friendlier to intelligent SF shows, I don't know, but if not...

I won't argue with "receding", as far as TV goes. But these things always go in cycles, and it's receding from one of its all-time highs. Give it a few years and the TV marketplace will have changed dramatically. Whether it'll be any friendlier to intelligent SF shows, I don't know, but if not...

Yep. And I don't like it either. I'm still trying to figure out whether I can't watch anything because the programs are really that much worse, or because my standards have gone up...

Yep. And I don't like it either. I'm still trying to figure out whether I can't watch anything because the programs are really that much worse, or because my standards have gone up...

What was that you were saying about the audiences not liking trash? :p ;)

What was that you were saying about the audiences not liking trash? :p ;)

None of which are really directly relevant to the issue of a broadcaster attracting viewers, since the viewers are not the broadcaster's customers. But if your general point is that Sci-Fi needs to target specific groups and not just the generic "mainstream", it's a good point, and it means...

None of which are really directly relevant to the issue of a broadcaster attracting viewers, since the viewers are not the broadcaster's customers. But if your general point is that Sci-Fi needs to target specific groups and not just the generic "mainstream", it's a good point, and it means...

Maybe I should have been more selective, and just posted the bit about the "13 straight months of ratings growth". That pretty clearly shows that it's a trend, not just a one-shot surge based on a couple of specials.

Maybe I should have been more selective, and just posted the bit about the "13 straight months of ratings growth". That pretty clearly shows that it's a trend, not just a one-shot surge based on a couple of specials.

I hadn't seen that one. Thanks for posting it.

I hadn't seen that one. Thanks for posting it.

Sorry about my tone. Got a little carried away. Banging my head against a brick wall tends to do that... :) But, again, in your arguments you keep talking about the quality of the programs. And I keep insisting that you're absolutely right about the poor quality, but that it doesn't matter. The...

Sorry about my tone. Got a little carried away. Banging my head against a brick wall tends to do that... :) But, again, in your arguments you keep talking about the quality of the programs. And I keep insisting that you're absolutely right about the poor quality, but that it doesn't matter. The...

It's entirely possible that something like this will eventually happen. The one big difference is that it's a lot easier for a new "hard" rap performing artist to get started than it is for a new cable network. Sci-Fi can be fairly comfortable that they'll have time to make whatever adjustments...

It's entirely possible that something like this will eventually happen. The one big difference is that it's a lot easier for a new "hard" rap performing artist to get started than it is for a new cable network. Sci-Fi can be fairly comfortable that they'll have time to make whatever adjustments...

Almost. She wants any viewers. Since there are a hell of a lot more mainstream viewers than SF viewers in the population, it's only common sense to target the mainstream.

Almost. She wants any viewers. Since there are a hell of a lot more mainstream viewers than SF viewers in the population, it's only common sense to target the mainstream.

And what, exactly would lead you to believe that? The fact that your own preconceptions have no apparent connection to reality? Or do you have sources of information you're not telling us about, other than inventing things out your imagination? They do research. Lots of it. They spend lots of...