Recoil
Regular
I thought that Sylar had to eat the persons brain but I don't know where I got that from.
Too many Zombie movies?
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The Official HEROES Spoiler Thread
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Too many Zombie movies?
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Sindatur
Regular
It wasn't that, it was his pi$$ed off voice. Isaac was gonna shown him the paintings anyway...
I thought that Sylar had to eat the persons brain but I don't know where I got that from.
Well, with the brains being missing, it was a reasonable assumption early on. Since then we have gotten the impression he's probably not actually eating them though.
Demonn
Regular
The Heros writer/creator in a interview said he orignaly intended Sylar to eat the brain to gain the ability but thought would make him too much of like a zombie, so somewhat dropped it. Though they haven't exactly shown how he gets his abilites either, so who knows. Unfortunatly I can't find the interview.
Sindatur
Regular
Well, we have been shown he merely looks at watches and can see what makes them tick, and what's wrong with them. Coupled with Dr. B talking about him altering his DNA so many times. So, yea, we don't know what he does with the brains, but, it would seem current canon suggests he merely looks at them and somehow is able to adapt his own brain to match, so he can have that power.
So, it seems we weren't just being ghouls early on thinking he was ingesting the brains
B5_Obsessed
Regular
The only problem I have, and maybe I'm mistaken on this, is did Sylar actually have any ability when Suresh Sr first met him? He was testing Sylar and quickly decided he was not stable and broke off his studies, but it always seemed to me that Sylar was not a valid "hero" until he offed his first victim.
vacantlook
Super Moderator
B5_Obsessed said:
I think he's considered to have naturally had the ability to "figure out how things work" so to speak. It's never been a clearly defined ability, but it does seem to be the baseline from which his character has operated in the entire show.
Sindatur
Regular
Yes, that was his power, looking at the way things work. He could look at a watch, and knew instantly how it worked, and why, and what was wrong with it. Sylar's name comes from a watch brand. His real name was Gabriel.
Alluveal
Regular
Yep, I agree, that was his power. It's why he made one heck of a "time piece" repair man. It took him meeting another one with a power to see how it works, though. His original power would have probably been a relatively minor one if he didn't take advantage of using it to steal the powers from other heroes.
vacantlook
Super Moderator
Well, I certainly enjoyed tonight's episode.
Yes could certainly tell this was going to be a good episode after the first 10 minutes. Raises questions how much did the future Hiro change the past, was his future always like that or did his intervention save the cheerleader, but changed the events so Peter was the bomb instead of Sylar.
Why was Parkmen working with Nathan/sylar , couldn't he read the president/Sylar mind to find out he wasn't Nathan.
Since when did the Haitian could block all powers, thought for the most part he could block mental powers (ie Matt Telepathy, Eden pushing, Sylars telekinesis ), he couldn't stop Nathan from Flying, Peter from all the powers he did when the Hatian and Bennet came after him <though he did use telekinesis against them>, or Ted.
Why did future Hiro think DL and (I think) Candice <shape shifting girl> was still alive? When both of them clearly were killed by Sylar a ways in the past so he could become president.
Though suppose Sylar taking over the president could of been recent events in that time line, recently knocking out Candice and DL and then using Candice powers to take over for Nathan.
Why was Parkmen working with Nathan/sylar , couldn't he read the president/Sylar mind to find out he wasn't Nathan.
Since when did the Haitian could block all powers, thought for the most part he could block mental powers (ie Matt Telepathy, Eden pushing, Sylars telekinesis ), he couldn't stop Nathan from Flying, Peter from all the powers he did when the Hatian and Bennet came after him <though he did use telekinesis against them>, or Ted.
Why did future Hiro think DL and (I think) Candice <shape shifting girl> was still alive? When both of them clearly were killed by Sylar a ways in the past so he could become president.
Though suppose Sylar taking over the president could of been recent events in that time line, recently knocking out Candice and DL and then using Candice powers to take over for Nathan.
B5_Obsessed
Regular
While I liked the revelations of this episode, I found a lot of scenes in it to be, for the first time, kinda cheesy - especially with Peter and Hiro in "Matrix Reloaded" mde.
B5_Obsessed
Regular
Another funny thing was that Sylar was more intimidating in Nathan's form that his own.
Alluveal
Regular
Hmm, interesting question. I think that perhaps the Haitian was around whenever Parkman was near the president? Otherwise, Parkman should have picked up on the fact that Nathan was really Sylar, clear as a bell. Not sure there is another plausible explanation.
I had this question as well, some time ago--why didn't the Haitian stop Nathan from flying off in one of the earliest episodes? Maybe the Haitian can only block powers if he KNOWS what powers they are? If they didn't know what Nathan could do, maybe he wasn't able to block them? Dunno. It's one plot hole that I think many fans are curious about.
I got from the episode that DL and Micah were "gone," but when Hiro spoke with Mr. Bennett, we know that Bennett was protecting certain heroes and giving them means to get a new life elsewhere. Hiro requested DL to Bennett because DL could "go through walls" to help save past-Hiro, but Bennett didn't seem eager to give up DL's location. I recall him saying something like, "I hide these people and protect them and you want me to undo all that work." This tells me that DL was still alive and likely living somewhere else with a new identity--perhaps with Micah. I could be wrong, I'm going off memory here.
But, Sylar DID have DL's power of going through walls, so we can assume DL was killed by Sylar and Bennett/Future Hiro simply didn't know about it. Same with Candace? Hiro didn't have any way to get in touch with the hidden heroes, except through Mr. Bennett, so he simply might not have known.
vacantlook
Super Moderator
Alluveal said:
There seemed to be some level of horizontality to the Haitian's powers (Parkman said they had to remain on that floor and wait for Hiro and Peter's assault in order to benefit from the Haitian's power), so maybe Nathan's flying up and away put him out of the horizontality of the Haitian's powers too quickly for the Haitian to be able to stop him.
I think that pretty much covers it.
I dunno after rewatching and looking at stuff, I think there something deeper. Hiro wanted DL, Candice and Molly. (the little girl who suppose to be able to stop Sylar and Sylar tried to kill in 2nd or 3rd episode that Matt protected) Cause those three were people that Hiro gave to Bennet to protect and put into hiding.
......(speculation)
Matt and Bennet were trading Dangerous powered heroes for less/non dangerous ones, DL a man with a criminal back ground and can walk thru walls, Candice illusions, cause all sorts of havoc in wrong hands and in general may already ticked Bennett off, Molly someone with powers that could rival Sylars, would probably consider them dangerous.
So Bennet handed them to Matt, and when Hiro came requesting there assistance, knowing the gig was up was forced to call Matt in to get rid of Hiro.
Matt was confronted by Sylar and started working with him either his family/son was threatened or by will. So when Matt got his hands on DL and Candice handed them over to Sylar, don't know about Molly don't believe Sylars Cryogenic powers were hers. Then Sylar assume the Presidency, possibly giving Matt head of homeland security in the process.
Dunno strange theory but from bread crumbs possible dunno if we ever find out , if true <maybe the graphic novels will fill in the blanks>. Other Hint would be Sylar became Sylar in front of Matt and the homeland security guys and Matt didn't pay much attention, could be Candice powers allow for directed illusions, that someone else may not see. Then there Matt desperateness to not come back empty handed from Texas, so goes and picks up Claire. Knowing Sylar was looking for her, to save Parkman own skin.
On the Haitians powers dunno doubt the horizontallity, think more just spherical closeness they were 11 floors up. Nathan just took off right in front of the Haitian and Peter did a few powers Sylars telekinesis thought he had stopped time at first when he stopped the bullets. Though Nathan did jump of the building before flying I believe.
Recoil
Regular
I felt like Matt knew that Nathan was really Sylar. There was something about the way he said "Mr President" throughout the episode that struck me as being a bit abrasive. After the Sylar revelation, I took it to mean that he was calling him that sarcastically knowing he wasn't really Nathan. The fact that he didn't seem to notice/care at the end seemed to reinforce that.
B5_Obsessed
Regular
Probably not since Sylar will likely be dead in 3 weeks. I was thinking that the "President" had assigned the Haitian to Parkman in order to protect his secrets. Even if it were Petrelli, it would still be a prudent move to protect national security secrets from a known mind-reader. Of course, once Sylar showed up after the Haitian's death and Sylar revealed his true face, you'd think Parkman might have noticed. Then again, once Petrelli and Sylar went at it, Parkman and everyone else on the other side of the door might have been wiped out. We have no way of knowing.
