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Just in case anyone's interested there are some reasonably priced versions of "In Valen's Name" (£10.99) and "Shadows Past and Present" (£12.99) available from Amazon, in the get it new or used bit. Some previous copies on there are going for £126.11...

Re: Londo\'s Three Chances Just one more "eye" for consideration... In the first season in "Signs and Portents" Londo loses the Eye (the eye was an ancient Centauri artifact which held great power in the republic). He let it be stolen, and it was Morden who "saved the eye" thus leading to...

According to Hindu mythology (and I think the Babylonian creation myth) Order and Chaos follow a cycle. Out of chaos comes order, the light drives away the dark... for a time, then it comes back, and so on. The answer then (based on the myth that jms based them on) the Vorlons win... but not for...

btw... When I said LOR above, I was referring to Lord of the Rings... ------------------

Firstly the shadows/the Enemy similarities. There are none. In the Lord of the Rings, the Enemy are the very embodiment of evil, the Shadows are not evil however. They have a philosphy which I may not agree with, but they do have a convincing argument and they believe they're doing the right...

Re: Here\'s a thought... <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by KoshN: Wait a minute. The Shadows were the oldest of the first ones, second only to Lorien's race. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Don't remember this heirarchy being given. Makes sense due to...

Re: Here\'s a thought... I think "the hand" that Kosh sent Sheridan was an image, not a singular definition which only applied to him. A hand has an equal and an opposite, which was the metaphor for the juxtaposition of Justin and Sheridan. I think this will play out to be a similar deal with...

Re: Here\'s a thought... Also, the Vorlon's quest for thirdsapce came about as an attept "to storm the gates of heaven itself," again a quote from Lyta. So even the Vorlons saw the Thirdspace aliens as Gods (which they believed they were as good as after they started buying their propoganda)...

Re: Here\'s a thought... Lorien states that he was the first one to achieve sentience in the universe. Is hyperspace or thirdspace technically our universe? Or a distortion of it or an alternate dimension. Either way, Lorien is basically billions upon billions of years old, so would be a lot...

Here\'s a thought... The Hand... a dark race billions of years old, cast out of our dimension into an alternate dimension by the forces of light... Now, bear with me as I connect some dots... The Thirdspace aliens... a dark race "even older" than the Vorlons (according to Lyta), trapped in...

Read 1984? Just the twice... ------------------

This is basically a repost of what I said in the "LOR disappointment" section... Re: "Hand of God". Many belief systems either acting in accordance with (or subverting) their beliefs have considered this an appropriate term. I think the key that jms is at is not that they think they're God, but...

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by KoshN: While the truth may be subjective, there are actual facts. The panel was conveniently ignoring all the facts that didn't agree with their argument, and making up stuff to support their arguments...

There is a solution to the Grandfather paradox. The most likely explanation (assuming time travel is possible at all) is that once you kill your grandfather, time then branches into two alternates. You would have come from the one where your grandfather created your father and in turn you. The...

And also... Lennier (or Delenn, I can't remember exactly) said that "some" of Minbar's major cities were cut out of crystal formations. Not all. On Earth, Moscow looks nothing like London, which in turn looks nothing like New York or Rome. I'm sure Minbar is as varied in architecture and style...

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, arial">quote:</font><HR> Originally posted by KoshN To me, it made the "experts" look empty. They were each willing to overlook the truth in order to further their own hypothesis. Maybe through all the flapping of their gums, they'd actually convinced...

As for the "Hand of God" pointless argument. I am a Christian and am not offended by it. Many belief systems either acting in accordance with (or subverting) their beliefs have considered this an appropriate term. I think the key that jms is at is not that they think they're God, but his...

I was lucky enough to see LOR today, and I have to say it's excellent. A far stronger beginning than any B5 series before it, and considerably stronger than many series full stop. I felt that the characters (although the pilot could only really focus on a couple in any depth) were well drawn...