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Old January 22nd 04, 05:03   #21
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Good catch though with the resemblence between the two backround aliens and the dead ship captain in "Ship of Tears".
I found another one. If one goes to 9:45 of the fourth season's "Whatever Happened To Mr. Garibaldi," as G'Kar's walking into the night club/bar, an alien of the same species as the dead and mutilated alien captain in question from "Ship Of Tears" stands in the midground of the shot taking up the right-most quarter of the screen.
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Old January 22nd 04, 05:12   #22
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And I stand by my statement, the funky face of the alien brought in on the stretcher is the same species as two of the quite background aliens in the telepath-to-ship distribution scene. They have very large foreheads with a bit of an odd ribbed look and funky noses.
I just checked my tapes. Man, I had never even seen those aliens. Who are they?

But I don't think it the same one as on the stretcher.

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Old January 22nd 04, 09:49   #23
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But I don't think it the same one as on the stretcher.
For me, it took quite a few viewings before I saw a similarity because when I see the mutilated alien on the stretcher, I tend to focus on its extremely sizable gaping chest wound and not its head/face area. But the large ribbed forehead is what caused me to see similarity between it and these background aliens.
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Old January 22nd 04, 10:30   #24
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Which "background" aliens? Ones at the begining of Grey 17?
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Old January 22nd 04, 10:57   #25
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And I stand by my statement, the funky face of the alien brought in on the stretcher is the same species as two of the quite background aliens in the telepath-to-ship distribution scene. They have very large foreheads with a bit of an odd ribbed look and funky noses.
I just checked my tapes. Man, I had never even seen those aliens. Who are they?

But I don't think it the same one as on the stretcher.

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And the Rock Cried Out, No Hiding Place





Sorry for the horizontal lines in the first two images. The 9V battery in my Snappy is just about dead. Gotta buy some batteries.




Ship of Tears






No, I think vacantlook is correct. The resemblance between the AtRCONHP aliens and the SoT ship pilot is too close. Look at the bone structure above the eye socket, toward the outside of the skull. Look at the nose area. The acid probably dissolved the soft tissue of the proboscus seen in the AtRCONHP pictures. Zero retouching was done to those caps.



DRAKH (soldier type, not leader type):

Lines of Communication


The first head-on,decently large frame, with a low amount of blur effect.


A better. closer frame. Note the structure running up the sides of the neck. It's also in the Crusade shot below, but not all of the soldier Drakh in "War Zone" exhibited that neck structure. Must have been variations between masks, possibly an oversight. <shrug>

Crusade: War Zone



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Old January 22nd 04, 11:24   #26
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Which "background" aliens? Ones at the begining of Grey 17?
By background aliens, I meant both the ones that KoshN screencapped from "And The Rock Cried Out No Hiding Place" and, as I discovered watching season four eps this morning, from "Whatever Happened To Mr Garibaldi?".
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Old January 22nd 04, 15:46   #27
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After seeing the screencaps, I must concur with Vacantlook. Good eye, my friend. The aliens in these two examples look VERY much alike.

So either...

1. A faction of this race is working with the Shadows (why not, we've seen it with the Humans - some are fighting the Shadows and some are working with them).

2. Though they look alike, these two examples are not of the same race. Again, we've seen this before with Humans and Centauri - they look alike with clothing on, but what is left unseen is that they are really very different.

3. Mistake in the props dept. that no one caught and/or no one thought the viewers would catch (this one isn't much fun to play with, though ).
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After seeing the screencaps, I must concur with Vacantlook. Good eye, my friend. The aliens in these two examples look VERY much alike.

So either...

1. A faction of this race is working with the Shadows (why not, we've seen it with the Humans - some are fighting the Shadows and some are working with them).
I tend to go with #1, except that it's not necessarily a faction, but could just be some individuals who were just doing a job for pay, similar to the Narn freighter crews in "The Passing of the Technomages" novels.
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Yeah, I think the doing a job for pay or individual of its species that's been swayed to the way of the Shadow is probably the most likely story answer, though the whole prop and costuming department answer is probably the real-world answer.
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3. Mistake in the props dept. that no one caught and/or no one thought the viewers would catch (this one isn't much fun to play with, though ).
I think its probably #3. Remember them commenting on how they had "never seen an alien like this one before." If those other aliens were hoofing around the station, then they would have seen them. Its probably that they needed a weird looking alien, and realized that those in the background were never a major part of any episode, and that people probably wouldn't notice, so they just used their overall form for the dead one found on the transport. Thats my opinion anyway.
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