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Old June 18th 18, 17:07   #31
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Well, right now they can't register at all because the Captcha system is down. But with our 'honey trap', it would take something pretty convincing for me to request DougO to upgrade them.
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Old June 21st 18, 03:02   #32
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Well, right now they can't register at all because the Captcha system is down. But with our 'honey trap', it would take something pretty convincing for me to request DougO to upgrade them.
Yes, "honey trap". That is a good word for it.
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Old August 20th 18, 18:46   #33
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I have no idea what I thought during the first two rounds of watching B5 since they were quite a few years ago.
However, when I started the third round a few months ago, I thought I'd die during the first season. Luckily I knew that Boxleitner was going to come to the second season, and there were Ivanova, Garibaldi, Londo, Vir, G'Kar etc. to save the day, and of course the story was excellent but oh. my. god. how much I cringed every time Michael O'Hare showed on the screen. Is he a stage actor? It was all I could think of as a reason. His ponderous way of saying the lines, exaggerated expressions... Ease and natural speech rhythm were nowhere in sight... the only explanation I had (as I tried to be kind) was that he did most of his work on stage and wasn't able to adapt to the small screen but what do I know... maybe everyone else thinks he's wonderful

Someone said somewhere here that CC isn't great at creating the scenes but she's really good at reacting. After I read that (in some episode thread), I haven't been able to forget it and now I see evidence of it in most every episode. It's true! CC is excellent in reacting to others / situations. Not so much when it's up to her to "build" a scene from scratch.

Am I the only one to think that the guy who played Ironheart was painful and awkward to watch?
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Old August 20th 18, 19:12   #34
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I have no idea what I thought during the first two rounds of watching B5 since they were quite a few years ago.
However, when I started the third round a few months ago, I thought I'd die during the first season. Luckily I knew that Boxleitner was going to come to the second season, and there were Ivanova, Garibaldi, Londo, Vir, G'Kar etc. to save the day, and of course the story was excellent but oh. my. god. how much I cringed every time Michael O'Hare showed on the screen. Is he a stage actor? It was all I could think of as a reason. His ponderous way of saying the lines, exaggerated expressions... Ease and natural speech rhythm were nowhere in sight... the only explanation I had (as I tried to be kind) was that he did most of his work on stage and wasn't able to adapt to the small screen but what do I know... maybe everyone else thinks he's wonderful
O'Hare was indeed a stage actor. I used to think as you do... my friends and I used to laugh at how he would always be smiling slightly, even in dark/dramatic scenes. And yes, he could be ponderous.

But you may have missed the news: a) he died some years ago and b) after his death, JMS revealed that O'Hare was struggling with a serious illness throughout the first season. JMS was ready to shut down the show so O'Hare could get treatment; it was that bad. But O'Hare refused, on the grounds that everyone else would lose their jobs, and pushed himself through to the end of the first season.

It's a remarkable story, and it really makes O'Hare's performance vastly more poignant. Think about it this way: without that acting (strained and rough as it was), the rest of the show simply would not exist.

Edit: here's the thread where we talked about it. http://www.b5tv.com/showthread.php?t=42275.

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Am I the only one to think that the guy who played Ironheart was painful and awkward to watch?
Yeah, I'm with you there. He was pretty clunky. And I've never known if he was whispering "Be still" or "Be steel" to himself. And every single time I watch the episode, he mispronounces "Serotonin!"
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Am I the only one to think that the guy who played Ironheart was painful and awkward to watch?
Yeah, I'm with you there. He was pretty clunky. And I've never known if he was whispering "Be still" or "Be steel" to himself. And every single time I watch the episode, he mispronounces "Serotonin!"
Now William Allen Young plays a doctor on the CBS series "Code Black." Maybe he will get an opportunity to get the pronunciation right this time.
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O'Hare's performance has grown on me over the years. He definitely has some bad scenes, but just about every cast member had those. He also has some outstanding scenes. Before his illness came to light I had developed a great love for what he did with the character. I started to think that this was just how Sinclair was; he had quirks. I started to think Sinclair had more realism than Sheridan. As much as I love Sheridan you can kind of telegraph what he will do. Anyway, like I said, O'Hare definitely had some outstanding moments and some stinkers.
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b) after his death, JMS revealed that O'Hare was struggling with a serious illness throughout the first season. JMS was ready to shut down the show so O'Hare could get treatment; it was that bad. But O'Hare refused, on the grounds that everyone else would lose their jobs, and pushed himself through to the end of the first season.
That was very interesting. Doesn't make me like his way of acting, though. However, it makes me really respect his thorough professionalism and dedication.

He did have a weird way with humour which I occasionally liked. Very deadpan and out-of-the-blue. To compare with Sheridan (who I adore), with him you can sort of see the funny stuff coming, but Sinclair sometimes got a surprised giggle out of me. In Babylon Squared, the short "I'll notify your next of kin" still makes me laugh just thinking about it.
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That was very interesting. Doesn't make me like his way of acting, though.
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However, it makes me really respect his thorough professionalism and dedication.
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He did have a weird way with humour which I occasionally liked. Very deadpan and out-of-the-blue. To compare with Sheridan (who I adore), with him you can sort of see the funny stuff coming, but Sinclair sometimes got a surprised giggle out of me. In Babylon Squared, the short "I'll notify your next of kin" still makes me laugh just thinking about it.
That whole scene is still a delight after all these years.
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Where others call O'Hare's acting 'wooden', I call it subtle. And given that he was surrounded by scenery-chewers, I'm not surprised that people don't quite get it. But he played his part *exactly* as written. The character was promoted to a post he wasn't yet qualified for by rank and he was suffering from PTSD after the Battle of the Line. His career had been stalled due to suspicion over his missing time and many folks in Earthforce would have killed to have his job so he was under intense and unfriendly scrutiny. I loved the way he played it.
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