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Old May 22nd 20, 02:38   #21
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I've been enjoying this thread so keep it up!
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Old May 22nd 20, 03:46   #22
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Glad to hear I'm not just screaming into the void for the fun of it.


Also, kudos to whoever did whatever to the spam bots around here. It was a real problem last time I was by and now the problem seems to be completely cleared up.
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Old May 22nd 20, 04:36   #23
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"Screaming Into The Void For The Fun of It" is my middle name.


And just to go back to BELIEVERS and point something else out that is awesome about it for a second. Ignoring either side of the argument, I absolutely think it broke ground in the whole Franklin / Sinclair dynamic. I feel in many other series of the time you would have seen them both caught in the struggle of what is right. Here we get Franklin getting cocky after he thinks he's been proven right and Sinclair slamming him down. VERY critical moment in the development and reveal of both characters. (But yes, I agree that in the grand scheme of things there is just character building and world building that is a very slow burn.)

OH how I love SIGNS AND PORTENTS.

Does everyone agree it is the first truly magnificent episode of Season One?
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It occurred to me that a literal reading of what I'm writing would come off as quite harsh, and your post could have been worked from either interpretation.

All good then

I am totally with you, in that I LOVE the show, but i can also have a damn good laugh at it when its warranted. And there are plenty of unintentional comedy gold moments, from over acting / scenery chewing, to terrible dialogue and/or delivery. Gotta enjoy every aspect. These review have been cracking me up. Keep it up.
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OH how I love SIGNS AND PORTENTS.

Does everyone agree it is the first truly magnificent episode of Season One?

YES. S1 is kinda fascinating, because on a first watch it's very easy to lay a lot of scorn on it. But, the second time around you spot all these little easter eggs and bits of foreshadowing that are kinda beautiful.


This is kinda inspiring me to maybe do a re-watch, it's been a few years I think. Maybe I can find a friend to do a watch party over skype.
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I am totally with you, in that I LOVE the show, but i can also have a damn good laugh at it when its warranted. And there are plenty of unintentional comedy gold moments, from over acting / scenery chewing, to terrible dialogue and/or delivery. Gotta enjoy every aspect. These review have been cracking me up. Keep it up.
While it never got to the level of Ari Ben Zayne, thank the Maker, you've got to admit that there were quite a few of the regular cast who chewed scenery up one wall and down the other. I've long said that the reason O'Hare came across as 'wooden' to some is because he was subtle while being almost entirely surrounded by scenery chewers. Excellent actors, yes, but scenery chewers nevertheless.
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Old May 23rd 20, 05:23   #27
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OH how I love SIGNS AND PORTENTS.

Does everyone agree it is the first truly magnificent episode of Season One?

YES. S1 is kinda fascinating, because on a first watch it's very easy to lay a lot of scorn on it. But, the second time around you spot all these little easter eggs and bits of foreshadowing that are kinda beautiful.


This is kinda inspiring me to maybe do a re-watch, it's been a few years I think. Maybe I can find a friend to do a watch party over skype.

I'm definitely on the S&P lovetrain.


Not to besmirch everything up to this point, but everything else had pieces of "that leads to something good". This is really the first episode where I would say things get good instead of just laying some good framework for the future.
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Old May 23rd 20, 06:17   #28
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1x14
TKO

People in the future are terrible at drug deals. I mean c'mon guys, handshake and palm it off. And Garibaldi's equally bad at arresting them. "I sure hope nobody stabs me in the back I'm about to turn to them."

Hey, a dashing stranger saves him. That's convenient.

Oh god. I remember the title of TKO. Is it as terrible as my subconscious tells me, or do I have it confused with that Voyager episode with the Rock? Or Rocky? Or Bloodsport? Or every generic fight movie where somebody's too stubborn to succumb to their massive brain damage so somebody grudgingly looks upon their bloodied face with respect?

...No disrespect to Bloodsport. Screw that brick in particular, vD, it deserved it.

Ivanova's been talking to some Rabbi for a few minutes but I honestly tuned out. Bloodsport reminiscing was more important. I should rewind that....

I'm uncultured and don't know what Shivah is when it's not either a Final Fantasy summon or an Indian goddess, so the impact of the scene escapes me but I get what it's going for. Religion's a recurring theme of the show but I don't think I ever particularly cared for it.

Yada yada, "Don't enter the fight, only the manliest of manly men could do it, and me implying you're too fragile is the best way to convince you."

Another adrenaline riddled rabbi-scene.

Oh god, and another one. This is a lot.

The guys sparring in the background seem to be having fun. Not the best camera angles to make the hits seem real, but they're energetic enough. Looks like they lacked direction as the one guy in the threeway is just kinda standing there.

"Stroke off". Well, that's direct.

I agree with Ivanova here. If she's not displaying erratic behaviour and it's been months since the death, everybody should back off. She's dealing how she wants to and it's nobody else's business.

Alien with no nose and mouth in the audience of this first fight would've been terrible to act as. Wonder if they did anything special to improve his ability to breathe.

I bet these fights would last longer if they trained for a single session on how to block a hit. The guy was just a punching bag.

Centauri-extra during this exchange is doing some quality "lean slightly closer to the guy talking, squint, and nod" acting. Oh yeah. He's nodding the shit out of that squint.

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♫ Don't want to be a fool for you
Just another rabbi in your game for two
You may hate me but it ain't no lie
Rabbi, bi bi bi ♫
"Earth Liner White Star"

Oi, isn't the White Star the name of the important thingy later with the see-saw beds and a Ranger infestation? I'm going to imagine that it's this passenger liner super upgraded. There. That's now canon.

Hey, Walker Smith blocked a kick, is that even legal?! His "NotGetKickedInTheFace Style" shall surely succeed where previous guy's "SkullBlock Style" failed.

"He's the best I've ever seen!" C'mon, Gyor knocked out a guy that was probably paid a sandwich to throw the fight, don't get overly grandiose here.

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♫ Ra ra rabbi scene, lover of the Russian queen,
There was a cat that really was long.... ♫
Alright, now to see who's the greatest fighter in universal history!

Aw, C'mon Smith, use your secret block style! You know that faces aren't his fists' weakness! I mean, blocking's like punching, except you punch his incoming arm with the side of yours.

Hey, now Gyor's forgotten how to block.

...I feel that intermingling an underground fighting plotline with a somber emotional plotline may not have been the best choice. "PUNCH HIM IN THE FACE, HACK THE GROIN, respectfully hug Ivanova, sorry for your loss, we share your pain, PUNCH HIM IN THE THROAAAAAAAT"

This choreography is amazing.

"Ok, your turn."
"Now your turn."
"K, now you punch me."
"Ok, I've got next."

Oh, oh, oh. Bloodied face? Check. Grudging respect? Check!

ADRIAAAAAAAN?

Woops, wrong movie.

Smith! Smith! Smith!

"The best I've ever seen."


...I'd be remiss if I didn't bring up the fact that not a single person got TKO'd in this episode though. The most blatant case of false advertising since The NeverEnding Story.

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Old May 23rd 20, 06:49   #29
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1x15
Grail


Hey, it's the guy from the show with the brother Darryl and the other brother Darryl! Neat.

First TKO, now Grail? That's a lot to bite off in one sitting. Does Grail go anywhere? I remember it being an eye roller.

TKO was the sort of not-good that I could go along with, smile, joke, but still engage with on a certain level. Grail.... Man, I'm not ever sure I care enough to throw silly comments at it.

...Ugh. Yeah, let's just bear down and get through this one in silence.
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Old May 24th 20, 13:26   #30
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Speaking of season 1, has anyone ever noticed the mistake in the opening credits?

At the end of the narration, when the camera zooms in on C&C, the image has been mirrored. You can tell by the door in the background and by the leather part of the uniform jackets.

I wonder why they did that?
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