B5TV.COM. Babylon 5 forums Babylon 5 message for the fans from Claudia Christian Babylon 5
Old March 29th 07, 13:18   #41
Recoil
First One
 
Recoil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 7,991
Re: Continuity errors-a list

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph DeMartino View Post
I thought the debate was more about whether JMS changing his mind counted as an "error". If I announce that I'm going to spend the weekend in Miami, get as far as Lauderdale, suddenly hang a right and go to Tampa instead, is that an "error"? Did I screw up and "miss" Miami or did I change my target?

I say I changed my target YMMV.

Regards,

Joe
True. I think I want to nitpick this a bit more and see if it makes sense. What you described above I would classify as a mistake.

So if JMS changed his mind about how he wanted something done in the show is really a mistake or not...I'd say no, it isn't. He realized he wanted to do something better, changed his mind, and did it that way. It wasn't an accidental change, it was intentional, for the better of the story, and he did it on purpose. So I'd say that is NOT a mistake.

However, could that change effect the continuity of the show, to someone who doesn't read online, all of JMSs posts and comments? Yes! Perhaps continuity error isn't the right word, but a discrepancy in continuity would have been a better way to name this topic.

He can make an intentional change, but although intentional, it would have the effect of altering the continuity of the show as a result. Not an accidental mistake mind you, or even an error, but certainly causing a discrepancy in continuity.

I think a lot of the ones we discussed here were an example of that. There might be one or two true "oops" kind of mistakes in the show....but no one is perfect and to only have a couple of those in a show is outstanding.
__________________
The Operative: "Do you know what your sin is?"
Malcom Reynolds: "Aw hell, I'm a fan of all seven... but right now, I'm gonna have to go with Wrath."
Recoil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 29th 07, 20:42   #42
GaribaldisHair
First One
 
GaribaldisHair's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Hull, England
Posts: 1,272
Re: Continuity errors-a list

I think you just nailed it Recoil ... whether by accident or design a discrepancy is still a discrepancy,
__________________
DaveC

Cake or death?
GaribaldisHair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 30th 07, 07:33   #43
Ranger1
Telepath
 
Ranger1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Surrey, England
Posts: 648
Re: Continuity errors-a list

there is another one in severed dreams, the EAS Roanoke is destroyed twice, once when the Churchill rams it and it comes apart and it also gets shot to pieces.
__________________
There was a saying on Minbar, anyone who wanted to get a straight answer out of Ranger One was to look at every reply in a mirror while hanging upside down from the ceiling.
Marcus Cole

"when ejaculating, it is considered gentlemanly to avoid the eyes"

"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die."
Ranger1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 30th 07, 17:00   #44
Lousy_Dodgers
Commander
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Orange, CA
Posts: 127
Re: Continuity errors-a list

There are a couple others like that in Severed Dreams but with so many SFX shots, I can see how it would happen.

For example, you see Clark-loyal starfuries fire on the Churchill and cause an explosion but then we see the bridge of the Alexander with everyone rocking about. Now maybe they got hit too but since it came immediately after the shot of the starfury attack, the implication is that it cause of the damage and not another off-camera attack.
Lousy_Dodgers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 30th 07, 18:53   #45
RMcD
First One
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: UK
Posts: 373
Re: Continuity errors-a list

That is also the episode where the marines from the breaching pod burn through the wall, when really they should have burned through the floor (not to say that they couldn't have burned through the floor first, then burned through a bulkhead or two out of spite).
RMcD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 30th 07, 20:31   #46
GaribaldisHair
First One
 
GaribaldisHair's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Hull, England
Posts: 1,272
Re: Continuity errors-a list

Quote:
Originally Posted by RMcD View Post
That is also the episode where the marines from the breaching pod burn through the wall, when really they should have burned through the floor (not to say that they couldn't have burned through the floor first, then burned through a bulkhead or two out of spite).
Maybe they burned through into a closet?



They did, of course, get it right in War Without End.
__________________
DaveC

Cake or death?
GaribaldisHair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 5th 07, 09:21   #47
crazyhorse
Anarchist
 
crazyhorse's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Nowhere
Posts: 2,888
Re: Continuity errors-a list

Also in Severed Dreams Delene states that the only person so survive a Minbari "fleet" was behind her implying Sheridan's batle was against a fleet again.
__________________
‘It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.’
Extract from the Declaration of Arbroath, 1320.

"me and other folk were just tryin tae get the boot in and some other guy banjoed him"

John Smeaton 2007

"You know why they're on the Internet don't you? Cos you wouldny speak to them in the fecking pub!" - Billy Connolly
crazyhorse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 14th 15, 18:56   #48
dregj
Lurker
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 6
Re: Continuity errors-a list

just wondered
is it me or do they seem to imply in the final episode that Sheridan had had his 20 years and the alliance was also 20 years old.
sheridan died at the end of 2260 at zhadum
the alliance was found at the end of the following year
rising stars?
dregj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 2nd 20, 08:27   #49
NorrinRadd
Lurker
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 4
Re: Continuity errors-a list

Quote:
Originally Posted by Recoil View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph DeMartino View Post
I thought the debate was more about whether JMS changing his mind counted as an "error". If I announce that I'm going to spend the weekend in Miami, get as far as Lauderdale, suddenly hang a right and go to Tampa instead, is that an "error"? Did I screw up and "miss" Miami or did I change my target?

I say I changed my target YMMV.

Regards,

Joe
True. I think I want to nitpick this a bit more and see if it makes sense. What you described above I would classify as a mistake.

So if JMS changed his mind about how he wanted something done in the show is really a mistake or not...I'd say no, it isn't. He realized he wanted to do something better, changed his mind, and did it that way. It wasn't an accidental change, it was intentional, for the better of the story, and he did it on purpose. So I'd say that is NOT a mistake.

However, could that change effect the continuity of the show, to someone who doesn't read online, all of JMSs posts and comments? Yes! Perhaps continuity error isn't the right word, but a discrepancy in continuity would have been a better way to name this topic.

He can make an intentional change, but although intentional, it would have the effect of altering the continuity of the show as a result. Not an accidental mistake mind you, or even an error, but certainly causing a discrepancy in continuity.

...
Umm... Isn't this pretty much why the word, "retcon" exists?
NorrinRadd is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 16:15.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
©2001 - 2018 B5TV.COM