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Old January 18th 09, 02:35   #11
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Re: RIP Patrick McGoohan

McGoohan was one of my favorites, and not only for The Prisoner, which I loved. He also starred in Danger Man, aka Secret Agent, which is available on DVD. It is intelligently written, not aimed at 12 year-olds, and well worth watching. If you ever get the chance, check out All Night Long, made in 1962. It is a sort of jazz version of Othello, and plays on cable, TCM I think.
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Old January 18th 09, 11:33   #12
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He shall live on through Braveheart. RIP
For me, he'll be the guy that took the explanation for what the hell happened at the end of the Prisoner to the grave.

You win this time, McGoohan.

I loved him in everything I saw him in, though. Well, can't say I loved him Braveheart, as I don't remember him from Braveheart. Or anything much about Braveheart, aside from that it really, really sucked. (Told you Mel Gibson was a douche! Hah!)
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Old January 18th 09, 18:53   #13
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I'm sure that'll comfort him a lot, Chilli. (He won, yea. )

I suspect there is no real "specific meaning" for the ending. It was more like interpretive dance or theater: impressions meant to bring about emotions in the audience, and thoughts, but not necessarily individual point-by-point logical meanings.

The very last shot in the series is one of the most memorable endings to a show, though, and I'd say the meaning of that (figuratively or literally) came across as clear as a bell.

And I love the premise. Wasn't he at a party, or something, when someone asked him "so where do secret agents go when they retire?" He had the beginning and the end clearly in mind, and made up the middle later, I would guess.

And all the bit parts he played: he always gave a sense of class and gravitas to anything he appeared in that I've ever seen. He had the mature version of "it" for movie and t.v. audiences.
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For me, he'll be the guy that took the explanation for what the hell happened at the end of the Prisoner to the grave.

You win this time, McGoohan.
Who is Number 1? has 5 answers. The final episode gave three of them.

The fourth answer is God.
The fifth answer is a person like a king. The name of the king/president/prime minister was the answer people were expecting.
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Old January 26th 09, 23:36   #15
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I loved him in everything I saw him in, though. Well, can't say I loved him Braveheart, as I don't remember him from Braveheart. Or anything much about Braveheart, aside from that it really, really sucked. (Told you Mel Gibson was a douche! Hah!)
He had Mel Gibson (William Wallace) put to death. It didn't go the way he wanted but he had him killed none the less.
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Who is Number 1? has 5 answers. The final episode gave three of them.

The fourth answer is God.
The fifth answer is a person like a king. The name of the king/president/prime minister was the answer people were expecting.
Number One was the nuclear missile that blasts of near the end. It is clearly labeled as such. One could say that nukes were "God" to the governments of the time. Now, they are the demons, if other gov may try to possess them...
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He had Mel Gibson (William Wallace) put to death. It didn't go the way he wanted but he had him killed none the less.
No it didn't go the way he wanted at all!
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Old February 9th 09, 21:49   #18
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William Wallace: "Sons of Scotland! I am William Wallace."
Young Soldier: "William Wallace is seven feet tall!"
William Wallace: "Yes, I've heard. Kills men by the hundreds. And if HE were here, he'd consume the English with fireballs from his eyes, and bolts of lightning from his arse."
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