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Old September 18th 07, 20:17   #1
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Season 5 - Dull?

Hello...

My wife and I are up past Phoenix Rising in Season 5 and with the exception of the few good Londo episodes, we are quite bored with Season 5 at this point. The telepaths story was just dull and we didn't care about any of the characters.

From what I've seen with the setup so far for the Centuari stories, we may be in for a good ride the rest of the season...but at this point, Season 5 is the weakest.

Did others have this feeling when they saw it up to Phoenix Rising?
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Old September 18th 07, 20:54   #2
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I really felt like Season 1 was the weakest.
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Old September 18th 07, 21:27   #3
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Re: Season 5 - Dull?

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Hello...

My wife and I are up past Phoenix Rising in Season 5 and with the exception of the few good Londo episodes, we are quite bored with Season 5 at this point. The telepaths story was just dull and we didn't care about any of the characters.

From what I've seen with the setup so far for the Centuari stories, we may be in for a good ride the rest of the season...but at this point, Season 5 is the weakest.

Did others have this feeling when they saw it up to Phoenix Rising?

Shhhhhhhh!!!!! Don't mention Byron, some people are.... kind of twitchy about that!

I actually like some of the standalone Season 5 episodes like Learning Curve.

I certainly don't feel Season 1 was weak. I actually preferred Sinclair to Sheridan. It's not that I didn't like Sheridan, I just related more to Sinclair...but hey I kind of related to Kosh as well. Explan that!
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Old September 18th 07, 21:47   #4
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Hello...

My wife and I are up past Phoenix Rising in Season 5 and with the exception of the few good Londo episodes, we are quite bored with Season 5 at this point. The telepaths story was just dull and we didn't care about any of the characters.

From what I've seen with the setup so far for the Centuari stories, we may be in for a good ride the rest of the season...but at this point, Season 5 is the weakest.

Did others have this feeling when they saw it up to Phoenix Rising?
Yes, but this was because JMS was regrouping after the Claudia debacle. It only gets better from Day of the Dead through Sleeping in Light. You're through the bad part of Season 5. The remaining part of the season with its Centauri arc is excellent.

Personally, I find No Compromises through Phoenix Rising the weakest of the whole series, with the Centauri parts of that span to be the only redeeming features.
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Old September 18th 07, 22:58   #5
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Byron was a wanker.As soon as he is gone the season is more enjoyable in my opinion.
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Old September 19th 07, 06:19   #6
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The first B5 ep I ever saw was a season 5 ep, and I fell in love with the show right away. Since I hadn't seen any of the action-filled eps of previous seasons I guess I didn't know any better.
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I didn't really like Byron and the plotlines involving him. Still, it was an interesting season, even if not quite as action-packed as 2-4.
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Re: Season 5 - Dull?

Considering all that happened prior to season 5 getting the go ahead, though not great it still is not to bad. The first four episodes were good in my opinion. The Long Night of Londo Mollari being one of my top ten episodes during the five year run. And as others have stated before me after Byron is gone things do get better.
I do think that Day of the Dead could have been much better. It would have been great to see Kosh come back and they should have concentrated more On the Londo, Adira moments but they had to set up the whole Lennier story and trying to develop new characters. It was a slighty above average episode.Things really get moving around the last six episodes or there about and the ending as we all agree here is perfect. Even a friend of mine who is a big trekkie. ( I know that is a bad word ) has told me that no ending for any of the trek series comes close to what he saw in Sleeping in Light. I watch that episode once a year and it still brings me to tears. Heck the first time I watched it so many years ago. I cried all the way through and am not ashamed to say it.

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Old September 19th 07, 10:16   #9
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Yes, but this was because JMS was regrouping after the Claudia debacle. It only gets better from Day of the Dead through Sleeping in Light. You're through the bad part of Season 5. The remaining part of the season with its Centauri arc is excellent.

Personally, I find No Compromises through Phoenix Rising the weakest of the whole series, with the Centauri parts of that span to be the only redeeming features.
Quoted for truth. To my mind, 'The Long Night of Londo Mollari' is the only really outstanding episode in the first half of the series, but the main four eps (almost a four part story in the way 'Messages from Earth', 'Point of No Return' and 'Severed Dreams' run as a three-parter) of the Centauri arc - 'Darkness Ascending', 'And All My Dreams, Torn Asunder', 'Movements of Fire and Shadow' and 'The Fall of Centauri Prime' - are possibly the high-watermark and emotional climax of the whole series, for me.

The Season 4 (Shadow and Earth Civil) wars may have been the overall climax of the 5 year story, but like 'The Scouring of the Shire' in LOTR, the Season 5 denouement brings home the consequences and after-effects of all the previous years' events to characters we've grown to care about, in tragic fashion. I love it.

I'm sure you won't be disappointed, garak.

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I assume S5 was also used as a possible bridge for a potential sequel series. "Learning Curve" again emphasizes the rangers, which would have featured prominently in the sequel according to JMS's intent. The fall of Centauri Prime sets the stage for the Drakh war, the telepath crisis will lead to the telepath war. A new ensemble of people gathers on Babylon 5. It's all neatly set up for a new series after B5.
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