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Old August 6th 07, 18:17   #1
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Shadow War Question - Minor Spoiler

Minor Spoiler for some...

I was a little disappointed in the end of the shadow war...with the Vorlons and Shadows going off leaving the "third age of man." Not that it was a bad idea, but I kind of expected the war to go on a little longer...was anti-climatic to me.

Was it just me?

Still got more episodes to view for the first time...saw the first appearance of "The Keepers."...
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Old August 6th 07, 18:27   #2
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Yea, there are B5 fans who just like the big fight and stuff-blowing-up and they were downright mad that JMS took a more clever way out.
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Old August 6th 07, 19:12   #3
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I don't mind the way it went out...I just had a feeling that the entire Season 4 would be the war...that's all.
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I don't mind the way it went out...I just had a feeling that the entire Season 4 would be the war...that's all.
The IA didn't stand a chance of winning an all out actual war, it wouldn't have been realistic if it had gone the way some expected it to. The Series was never just about the Shadow War, it was always meant to hit all the points it did.
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I believe either in script books or on the DVD jms stated that since both the Shadows and the Vorlons were so much older and therefore (as scifi logic typically goes) more advanced that the only way the war could have been won as it worked out. Although, you are correct in saying it felt short because "Into the Fire" was originally intended to be a two-parter but because jms knew Warners might tell him to pack it up jms couldn't quite do the big finish to the Shadow/Vorlon he intended.

Read his comments here. As he says if he hadn't been rushed and he would have made the two-parter the war still would have ended the exact same way.
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Exactly...I didn't mind the way it ended...just thought it would come later...so thus, as I was not ready for it, that ending was anti-climatic to me.
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Exactly...I didn't mind the way it ended...just thought it would come later...so thus, as I was not ready for it, that ending was anti-climatic to me.

In a sense, I think it was meant to be a little, because the end of the Shadow War feeds into something else, which you will see played out by the end of S4. To have the Shadow war play out grand as some expected it to, would've made the rest of the series a bit anti-climactic.
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Exactly...I didn't mind the way it ended...just thought it would come later...so thus, as I was not ready for it, that ending was anti-climatic to me.
I found it anti-climactic the first time I saw it. It seems at this point JMS switches from a parallel storytelling approach to a more sequential one, essentially so that everything can finish tidily and satisfactorally at the end of S4. However in retrospect I can appreciate that the first 6 episodes of that season form a very intense mini-arc, that the plot rallies and ratchets up again very quickly after that, and that the latter part of S4 is about as good as it gets. It's just that brief moment at the end of Into the Fire where you feel like you've just run unexpectedly off the edge of a cliff, especially if you didn't know that cliff was coming.
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On original viewing, it was clear to me that Sheridan's strategy was to pit the Shadows and the Vorlons against each other, in direct combat, in the hopes that they would pretty much wipe each other out, and that his forces, including a few First Ones, could mop up what was left. So, yeah, I was expecting a big space battle, and was just a little disappointed that JMS fooled me, and ended it differently. But, what he did do was fine.
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I felt the same at the time, but the more personal conclusion to the season with the Earth Civil War more than made up for it.

Season 4 really does rock.
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