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Old October 22nd 21, 13:36   #21
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Although I'd love to see some gust appearances from the original series, I really just want to see what an alternate universe's Babylon 5 would be like. I want to be surprised.
Completely agree! But this sort of thread reminds me of an episode JMS wanted to do but had nixed by the Powers That Be (don't recall if it was WB or PTEN): He wanted to do a dream episode where the actors played different characters. JMS showed the premise in the script books where G'Kar falls ill and has this dream:

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The shape the dream takes is as follows: he
awakes in darkness, goes to the mirror, turns
on the lights...and he's human. He is in an
Earth uniform. He is Captain Jack Carr of the
Earth Alliance; his female Russian second in
command is Commander Dylan (a human version of
Delenn, played by Mira without makeup), and his
security chief is Len (the human version of
Londo, played by Peter without makeup). They
don't believe his story that this is a
dream...neither do the various ambassadors,
Minbari ambassador Sherdinn (Bruce in
prosthetics), Narn ambasador S'san (Claudia in
prosthetics), or Centauri ambassador Garbaldo
(Jerry in prosthetics).
Could have been so much fun!!
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Old October 22nd 21, 16:21   #22
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Although I'd love to see some gust appearances from the original series, I really just want to see what an alternate universe's Babylon 5 would be like. I want to be surprised.
Completely agree! But this sort of thread reminds me of an episode JMS wanted to do but had nixed by the Powers That Be (don't recall if it was WB or PTEN): He wanted to do a dream episode where the actors played different characters. JMS showed the premise in the script books where G'Kar falls ill and has this dream:

Quote:
The shape the dream takes is as follows: he
awakes in darkness, goes to the mirror, turns
on the lights...and he's human. He is in an
Earth uniform. He is Captain Jack Carr of the
Earth Alliance; his female Russian second in
command is Commander Dylan (a human version of
Delenn, played by Mira without makeup), and his
security chief is Len (the human version of
Londo, played by Peter without makeup). They
don't believe his story that this is a
dream...neither do the various ambassadors,
Minbari ambassador Sherdinn (Bruce in
prosthetics), Narn ambasador S'san (Claudia in
prosthetics), or Centauri ambassador Garbaldo
(Jerry in prosthetics).
Could have been so much fun!!



Would also have been Revenge of the Makeup Trailers and the possible return of Abrahamo Lincolni.

I thought another reason it might have gotten the axe was it was considered Too Similar to the DS9 episode Far Beyond the Stars, although in that episode everyone was without makeup since it took place "in the 60s". B5's episode would have had the actors swapping roles while still keeping certain characters in makeup. Different concepts, but someone worried that it was Too Similar?
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Old October 22nd 21, 19:57   #23
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Although I'd love to see some gust appearances from the original series, I really just want to see what an alternate universe's Babylon 5 would be like. I want to be surprised.
Completely agree! But this sort of thread reminds me of an episode JMS wanted to do but had nixed by the Powers That Be (don't recall if it was WB or PTEN): He wanted to do a dream episode where the actors played different characters. JMS showed the premise in the script books where G'Kar falls ill and has this dream:

Quote:
The shape the dream takes is as follows: he
awakes in darkness, goes to the mirror, turns
on the lights...and he's human. He is in an
Earth uniform. He is Captain Jack Carr of the
Earth Alliance; his female Russian second in
command is Commander Dylan (a human version of
Delenn, played by Mira without makeup), and his
security chief is Len (the human version of
Londo, played by Peter without makeup). They
don't believe his story that this is a
dream...neither do the various ambassadors,
Minbari ambassador Sherdinn (Bruce in
prosthetics), Narn ambasador S'san (Claudia in
prosthetics), or Centauri ambassador Garbaldo
(Jerry in prosthetics).
Could have been so much fun!!



Would also have been Revenge of the Makeup Trailers and the possible return of Abrahamo Lincolni.

I thought another reason it might have gotten the axe was it was considered Too Similar to the DS9 episode Far Beyond the Stars, although in that episode everyone was without makeup since it took place "in the 60s". B5's episode would have had the actors swapping roles while still keeping certain characters in makeup. Different concepts, but someone worried that it was Too Similar?
Perhaps. But since I'm the same age as JMS, I'd have to suppose that if he got the idea from anywhere, it would have been from the ensemble nature of the old Dark Shadows soap opera.
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Although I'd love to see some gust appearances from the original series, I really just want to see what an alternate universe's Babylon 5 would be like. I want to be surprised.
Completely agree! But this sort of thread reminds me of an episode JMS wanted to do but had nixed by the Powers That Be (don't recall if it was WB or PTEN): He wanted to do a dream episode where the actors played different characters. JMS showed the premise in the script books where G'Kar falls ill and has this dream:

Quote:
The shape the dream takes is as follows: he
awakes in darkness, goes to the mirror, turns
on the lights...and he's human. He is in an
Earth uniform. He is Captain Jack Carr of the
Earth Alliance; his female Russian second in
command is Commander Dylan (a human version of
Delenn, played by Mira without makeup), and his
security chief is Len (the human version of
Londo, played by Peter without makeup). They
don't believe his story that this is a
dream...neither do the various ambassadors,
Minbari ambassador Sherdinn (Bruce in
prosthetics), Narn ambasador S'san (Claudia in
prosthetics), or Centauri ambassador Garbaldo
(Jerry in prosthetics).
Could have been so much fun!!
Garbaldo,
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The original Dark Shadows series is one of my guilty pleasures.

Regarding the dream episode: Wow, that would have been amazing! I can't imagine what the network didn't like about it. I was watching a You Tube interview with the actor who played Lennier (Bill Mumy) and apparently he HATED the makeup. I'm sure he'd have loved an episode that allowed him to play a human character.
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The original Dark Shadows series is one of my guilty pleasures.
Interestingly, I am browsing some of the old Dark Shadows recently. It is on Tubi streaming channel for free.
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I dropped cable/satellite service and now I just use Hulu Plus.
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Tom Zarek on the re-imagined Battlestar Galactica leaps to mind -- a character far enough away from the actor's original role.

But heh, we've already got a B5 precedent for that, don't we? Koenig as Bester. I'm calling it now -- one of our beloved original cast will play a recurring villain!
So I was going back through this discussion. TOM ZAREK is a great example, but personally they really messed up that character. The first couple of episodes he was in were absolutely great, then (IMO like everything in new BSG) they totally screwed it up. Regardless, my hope is that all old cast members get big roles in the new series - bigger than what was given to Richard Hatch. I think there is plenty of room for any of them to come back as villains or whatever. I do have to admit the one person I would like to see come back as the same character is Koenig. You know I love every B5 character, but I still feel that in the grand scheme of things Koenig doesn't get the credit he deserves from the World for playing such a great villain. But I would be fine with him coming back as any character.
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Just posting in a new thread so people might see it. Are you all hiding from me?
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I am never sure if I should post here if I donít have any real news. I keep looking at the threadís title to see if any posts are there, in the never-ending hope that we might hear some news on a B5 reboot moving forward at whatever channel the CW was engulfed by.

I will keep looking at the thread. Iím as hard to shake off as a bad rash.
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