February 3rd 05, 12:46
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First One
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Winston-Salem, NC, USA
Posts: 1,055
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Re: Enterprise axed?
If we're talking about bad vs. "decent" vs. good vs. hit-its-stride, I would say War Zone was the one bad episode, Crusade was just beginning to hit its stride with Each Night I Dream of Home, and all the episodes in between are at least decent.
Each Night..., the Dr. Franklin guest spot, was the best episode and the only one I would say is in the A range of quality, most being B or C range. It was the last one aired and, in production order, the last of the first five "un-interfered" episodes, so either way you look at it, I think it was the sign of the quality that the show could/would/should have headed toward.
As far as Enterprise... I think they may have been heading in the right direction in year four by exploring the origins of Trek tech and doing crossovers with future characters, etc. That's probably what they should have done in season one.
However, the last Enterprise episode I bothered paying attention to was the one in which non-corporeal aliens were taking over bodies of crew members in order to study humanity. The only slightly original angle it took was the struggle of authority among the aliens and giving each one a distinct personality. But the moral in the end was the same as usual--humans have great potential and they could have discovered that more easily and less controversially by just talking to them. That kind of thing has been done before.
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February 3rd 05, 14:43
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First One
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 8,016
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Re: Enterprise axed?
GKE,
I agree 100%. In fact, not only is there the possibility of the "Romulan War" coming up that we know happened from TOS, but also I saw a quick trailer that hinted it might be the start of the "United Federation of Planets" which doesn't exist yet, but will in TOS era. Good stuff was on the horizon. Its unfortunate so many fans have already tuned the show out. As I said, I already did, the only reason I turned back in is word about Manny's plans. But most fans of a TV show don't surf the web to the level most of us here do. We are definitely a-typical fans...
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February 3rd 05, 15:02
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First One
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Orlando, FL USA
Posts: 1,942
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Re: Enterprise axed?
Congratulations to Rick Berman. It took him 18 years of grit and determination to remain steadfastly unchanging and repetitive, but he did it! It took a lot of trips to the well, but he finally got Paramount to cancel Star Trek (aka "The Franchise", aka "The Show that Saved Paramount" aka "A License to Print Money") on their own network. Most of us figured that as long as there was a UPN, there would always be a home for Trek. Guess not.
Also, kudos for calling in Dr. Coto after the death-rattle has already sounded.
I had high hopes for this show, but it turned out to be nothing I had hoped for.
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February 3rd 05, 19:17
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First One
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 28,890
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Re: Enterprise axed?
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Honestly, I was never enamoured with Enterprise, and can't say I'm sad to see it go. Outside of Trip, Porthos and Phlox there was little reason to watch the show. I only bothered watching a few episodes this season, and didn't really see much improvement over the past three.
Besides, I now have Battlestar Galactica for my space sci-fi fix. And it's really good.
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I won't be able to ask old Mighty if the dog is still with them.
Hope Porthos makes it to the finale, at least.
Actually, this season really was better. It's just such a shame. As was said much earlier, if only this had been like their season 1, this might have been an interesting series. Very sad news.
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February 3rd 05, 21:18
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First One
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Nashville
Posts: 2,511
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Re: Enterprise axed
What truly surprises me isn't the fact that they finally decided to cancel Enterprise (especially when it was getting good), it's that I'm totally indifferent to the cancellation. I utterly love Star Trek, but I could care less that there's not going to be any new Trek on television next year. I could care less that there's not got to be any new Trek in the theaters next year. I just don't care.
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February 3rd 05, 22:34
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First One
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Christchurch, Dorset, England
Posts: 4,616
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Re: Enterprise axed
Welcome back Pison Ten. I hope you are feeling happier.
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February 4th 05, 04:03
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Administrator
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 8,974
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Re: Enterprise axed
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What truly surprises me isn't the fact that they finally decided to cancel Enterprise (especially when it was getting good), it's that I'm totally indifferent to the cancellation. I utterly love Star Trek, but I could care less that there's not going to be any new Trek on television next year. I could care less that there's not got to be any new Trek in the theaters next year. I just don't care.
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I have to agree. I watch Enterprise each week, and I find it a satisfactory 45 minutes each week. But really bothered? No.
I do feel a bit sad that I probably won't interview the cast as much, and it feels *weird* that it'll be the first time in 18 years without Trek. But that's it really.
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February 4th 05, 09:42
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First One
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Hull, England
Posts: 1,273
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Re: Enterprise axed
Just as a point of interest, where are we up to in the UK - what seasons have been shown and what are we waiting for?
Cheers,
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February 4th 05, 12:00
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First One
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Bucks, UK
Posts: 1,410
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Re: Enterprise axed
On Terrestial we have only had two seasons. Don't know about sattelite.
Quick question, did ANY red shirts get killed at all in Enterprise?
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February 4th 05, 12:03
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: NE of Cleveland, OH
Posts: 48,711
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Re: Enterprise axed
I didn't see much of Enterprise, but what I did see was okay. I'm not really sad about it going off the air because I never really developed a following of the show. I was just never home to watch much of it.
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