August 30th 07, 20:08
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Ranger
Join Date: Aug 2007
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Marcus???
He was without a doubt one of my favourite characters. his line in that first episode of Season 3 made me laugh so much:
Lurker: I Dont Like Insults
Marcus: Thats funny with a face like yours i would have thought youd be used to it
What happened, was him being "killed" off (and i used the term killed loosely) a planned plot line or did the actor want out??? And hed better be in some future editon of TLT. He was great lol
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August 30th 07, 20:13
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Psi Cop
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Orlando, FL
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Re: Marcus???
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Originally Posted by Crusader
What happened, was him being "killed" off (and i used the term killed loosely) a planned plot line or did the actor want out???
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JMS needed Ivanova to get to a certain place emotionally and this was how he did it. He's said on the DVD commentaries that had he known ahead of time that Claudia was leaving, he'd never have killed off Marcus.
Jan
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August 30th 07, 20:21
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First One
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Bucks, UK
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Re: Marcus???
I certainly hope will be in TLT at some point.
Before that, if you want my take on the Marcus story, there is my fanfiction at http://www.fanfiction.net/~hilaryweston 
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August 30th 07, 20:51
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Commander
Join Date: Sep 2006
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Re: Marcus???
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Originally Posted by Crusader
And hed better be in some future editon of TLT. He was great lol
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No word about that. But JMS has mentioned that the TLT format is flexible enough to allow hopping in the timeline, and maybe do things like a Marcus or Sinclair story, which wouldn't be possible without that flexibility. So there's hope, I suppose.
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August 30th 07, 21:58
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Ranger
Join Date: Aug 2007
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Re: Marcus???
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Originally Posted by Shabaz
No word about that. But JMS has mentioned that the TLT format is flexible enough to allow hopping in the timeline, and maybe do things like a Marcus or Sinclair story, which wouldn't be possible without that flexibility. So there's hope, I suppose.
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Good Sinclair id like to see again aswell, bt the sarchasm of marcus made season 3 and 4 all the more enjoyable
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August 31st 07, 06:12
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Ambassador
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Earth
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Re: Marcus???
Yeah, I liked Marcus. Even though Claudia Christian is one of my favorite actresses and Ivanova my favorite character on B5, I don't think it was fair to sacrifice Marcus for her sake, especially since she left the show.
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August 31st 07, 06:34
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Moderator
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Virginia
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Re: Marcus???
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Originally Posted by maneth
Yeah, I liked Marcus. Even though Claudia Christian is one of my favorite actresses and Ivanova my favorite character on B5, I don't think it was fair to sacrifice Marcus for her sake, especially since she left the show.
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Marcus's sacrifice was written and filmed before Claudia chose to leave the show; jms has said that had he known when he wrote it that Claudia would eventually choose to leave, he wouldn't have killed Marcus. Marcus's sacrifice was a set up for what would become a relationship between Ivanova and Byron in season five; Ivanova would be afraid of *not acting* on her feelings toward Byron out of regret for having not acted on her feelings toward Marcus. And in that would have been the biggest element of the drama of the whole telepath colony arc, if you ask me -- that and Ivanova having to call in Bester to deal with the rogue telepaths.
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August 31st 07, 15:01
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Techno-mage
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Re: Marcus???
Was Ivanov's telepathy supposed to grow a little bit during her relationship with Byron? I mean I realize she would never have gotten beyond a P1 or P2, but, I once heard she was supposed to grow a bit, which would increase the drama with having to call in Bester? Anyone ever heard anything about that?
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August 31st 07, 15:37
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Telepath
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: The Valley of the Sun
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Re: Marcus???
Susan and Byron??? Eeeewwwww!
Sorry, not a huge Byron fan... but Susan rocks! As for Marcus, I LOVED him! What a great character!
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August 31st 07, 16:08
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Ambassador
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Earth
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Re: Marcus???
Yeah, I'm not a great Byron fan either so I quite like how that panned out. Still, it would've been interesting to see Ivanova continue on the show.
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