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Old May 5th 08, 23:20   #11
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It's really not realistic in any way and I'm sure that all the political prisoners put there that have been tortured wish they only had to endure what Sherdian went through.
From what I understand, it was actually pretty realistic ...... for that subset of political prisoners that the powers that be want to be able to parade around in very public repentence (and therefore want to not be *visibly* damaged at all).

Granted that is a limited subset ....... they have to be well known public figures to have enough propaganda value. Still, .....
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Old May 6th 08, 01:30   #12
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Hello, Pillow Rock! I haven't seen you posting here in a while.

This isn't a political forum, so I don't want to stir up a political discussion, but...

I think Sheridan's interrogation was more or less consistent with what the US military considered legal, or at least doable, prior to 9/11. Of course, some countries would have gone further, as now does the US.
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Old May 6th 08, 17:19   #13
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Although I'd be tempted to skip TKO And Infection, I prefer to just tank it and go all the way through.
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Old May 6th 08, 23:57   #14
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Although I'd be tempted to skip TKO And Infection, I prefer to just tank it and go all the way through.
I think I have watched "TKO" and "GROPOS" twice and that was enough for me.Episodes like "The Fall Of Night" or "Interludes and Examinations"are something completely different.I've rewatched them so many times and I still find them interesting.
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Old May 7th 08, 12:48   #15
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This go through, I am not skipping any episodes. I do find something enjoyable and new even in the ones I don't care for. In Soul Hunter (which I do like), this time I noticed "if you fall I will catch you" spoken the 1st time in the series.
The eps that I have skipped in the past - Comes the Inquisitor, Learning Curve, Corps is Mother...
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Old May 7th 08, 20:56   #16
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Definetely Exogenesis.

In Grey 17 is Missing, I tend to skip most of the Grey 17 story. I actually find it kind of interesting until Garibaldi actually gets there. Still, the parts with Neroon are worth watching so I just skip to those scenes.
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Ah, it's time for my annual "defend Intersection in Real Time" post. Ok, here goes- it freakin' rules! One of the finest B5 moments, easily.

And yes, it certainly is realistic. The idea of using physical breakdown and confusion to wipe a victim's mind clean in order to re-configure their ideas has been done, and was actually based on some early psychological experimentation, linked with shock therapy.

Other things I love about the episode- I'm just a sucker for the theatrical 2-man play setup. Of course it requires actors of high caliber and the interrogator was perfect and Sheridan is just criminally underrated as an actor on this show- even by fans. While the understandable consensus is that G'Kar and Londo had the best actors, I consider Sheridan to be in that company.

Frankly I don't understand the hate on this ep at all. I don't think I could've been as big a fan as I am of B5 without this and another fan-hated episode- the one where the slimy enemy journalists create a BS news report on purpose.

Star Trek set the standard for connecting sci-fi TV with real-life issues, but B5 took it to the next level by adding these kinds of specific elements. It's precisely these eps that set the show apart.


Anyway, to answer the original question- I f'n hate Grail.
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Old May 9th 08, 05:11   #18
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Grail didn't make a lot of sense, but I don't hate it.

Oddly enough, I never liked Comes the Inquisitor either, even though I have no trouble with Sinclair being tortured by Knights 1 and 2 in the first season. Maybe because the revelation of "there's a hole in your mind" blew me away the first time I watched the series.
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Old May 9th 08, 11:03   #19
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Got to pitch in with GKE on Intersections ... for me, it is right up there among the best. 3-4 episodes. And in terms of acting, two things jump out.

Compare Bruce's performances in this episode and in Points of Departure, and you can start to see the range the guy has as an actor.

IIRC, Raye Birk (better known as Papshmir in the Naked Gun movies, of course) was called in as a last minute replacement and didn't have enough time to prepare for the ep to be shot in the way it was originally intended (i.e. with the acts filmed as single takes), but he did brilliant job nonetheless.

As to episodes I am tempted to skip ... not many really ... TKO just doesn't work for me (but then I don't get the appeal of boxing either so that probably doesn't help), Convictions is just a slice of nothingness ... in fact, it tends to be some of the standalone stuff that I just find less interesting.
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Old May 9th 08, 13:38   #20
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TKO is generally slammed... I remember Recoil once had a pretty cool post defending it. And I actually am quite a boxing fan, but the reason I didn't really like the episode was the execution of it. Just kind awkward and clumsy.
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