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Old October 18th 18, 16:29   #31
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I always figured that treason and mutiny get you spaced because in a combat situation they might not be able to arrest and hold you for sentencing. So if they simply space you, that way they have still acted legally.
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Old October 20th 18, 04:28   #32
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I just posted this on the review for Legacies.

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"This becomes less about Alisa’s future and a sort of small, ideological battle. Talia is convinced that the regimented, ordered life of the Psi Corps will help Alisa best. But Ivanova believes that the Psi Corps will ultimately ask for obedience and conformity, as they did in the past with Ivanova’s mother. "
Wait! WHAT? You mean this whole story is the entire Shadow War in miniature with Ivanova playing the Shadows? WTF? HOW DID I NEVER SEE THAT BEFORE?

I'll just say that it's insights like this which make me love watching the whole Mark Watches Babylon 5 series. I've rewatched this show from time to time for 20 years and never made that connection until today.
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Old October 20th 18, 05:18   #33
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Oh, wow. Of course -- and I never saw that either. Perhaps because Psi Corps becomes allied with the Shadows later? Threw us off a bit.

I wonder how many other little microcosms there are?
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Old October 20th 18, 21:33   #34
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I wonder how many other little microcosms there are?
There are many!!!!!

But seriously how did you not notice? LOL And how did you not tie that to Ivanova and Talia's eventual relationship? And how did you not tie the complexity of that scenario to the oddity of Ivanova playing the part of The Shadows when so much of her own existence is tied to the order, routine, and subjugation of the military?

Ah . . . . good talk.
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Old October 21st 18, 00:43   #35
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I definitely saw that Ivanova and Talia were losing perspective and making their argument about them and not about Alisa. I didn't notice the parallels with the Shadow/Vorlon war because that happens much much later in the show. Even on a rewatch.
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Old October 22nd 18, 23:59   #36
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In his review for "Chrysalis," Oshiro has a good read on the Shadows.

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The power that the Shadows demonstrate here makes it seem like they could destroy most of the Alliance in like… a few days. Tops. So what’s the purpose of all of this? They need an ally for something, or they would not have reached out to the Centauri through Mollari.
Also, I think this might be because he's watched the first season in an order that placed "TKO" much later than the DVDs order the episodes, but then he seemed to pick up on this as soon as it happened in "TKO," but

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WALKER SMITH WARNED HIM???
that is indeed an intentional decision by jms to foreshadow Garibaldi being shot in the back, but it's one that I never picked up on until I read jms commenting about having done it that way.

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How will this change the political situation on Babylon 5? What if they have a President who doesn’t see the station as a place of diplomacy, but one of defense?
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Will the Home Guard feel emboldened now that they’ve succeeded? Oh gods, WHAT IF WASN’T THE HOME GUARD? What if it was someone else???
I love that he's clearly on to something, but he's still not prepared for what's coming.
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Old October 23rd 18, 00:22   #37
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HA! Oshiro dropped a comment in reply to his posting about "Chrysalis," saying,

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I just want you all to know that I've now seen through 2x05 and I will not forgive any of you for this.
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Old October 23rd 18, 11:12   #38
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Just wait until he gets to Coming of Shadows!
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Old October 24th 18, 01:47   #39
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His Season 2 predictions are remarkably accurate, with a few glaring exceptions:

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We will discover Delenn’s new form in the first episode.
I am also guessing this is why I cannot watch the opening credits for the first two episodes.
I am guessing that Delenn is a new form of her species.
Garibaldi will recover by the end of the second episode.
Talia and Ivanova will clash over the Psi Corps again this season.
We’ll see Bester again.
We will also see Morden multiple times.
Mollari will continue working with the Shadows.
Bonus points if he knows who he has allied with and keeps doing it anyway.
Sinclair will discover the truth about the Battle of the Line, but not until the end of the second episode, when Delenn tells him.
There will be another episode about Garibaldi’s alcoholism.
We will find out where G’Kar went to in the first episode.
The new president is gonna be THE WORST.
Home Guard will also be THE WORST and will escalate their attacks and their presence in the galaxy.
A war of some sort will break out at the end of season two.
I think it’ll be the Shadows/the Centauri versus… everyone else?
Ambassador Kosh will show someone else their true form.
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Old October 24th 18, 07:56   #40
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He was off by one epside for a lot of those. And he might even have been correct if it wasn't for the Sinclair / Sheridan swap.
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