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Old April 26th 07, 15:40   #11
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Yeah, I think Troi, perhaps, was best when she wasn't being "Councelor" Troi. I liked whenever a story had her having to put her foot down and be strong and whathaveyou. The closer she got to "I sense..." or "I feel..." the more her character would become annoying.
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Old April 26th 07, 16:34   #12
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"Timeline! This is no time to argue about time. We don't have the time. What was I saying?"

Yeah, I think Troi, perhaps, was best when she wasn't being "Councelor" Troi. I liked whenever a story had her having to put her foot down and be strong and whathaveyou. The closer she got to "I sense..." or "I feel..." the more her character would become annoying.

Right- Troi got more tolerable when they completely changed her character to be different than what they originally intended her to be.
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Old April 26th 07, 17:10   #13
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I also appreciated Captain Jellico's order to make her wear standard starfleet uniforms in Chain of Command - and the fact that she stuck to it afterwards too. Her "special" clothes just were so bloody campy.

I can't stand the trek sex suits, in any case. (Troi, Seven of Nine, T'Pol) As much as I appreciate the sight of female flesh - duh - those kinds of outfits are just so porn B movie or something. Someone should have told the makers that it is actually possible to have an outfit be elegant AND sexy...
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Old April 26th 07, 19:07   #14
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I could have kinda accepted Seven choosing the skin tight jump suit (and it being an reasonably in-character choice on the grounds of sleek efficiency with nothing to catch in ships moving parts or whatever) if ...... *IF* ...... they had given "sensible" shoes to go with it. Shoes that you could run, climb, whatever in.

When they put those heels on her shoes, they lost me with respect to believing that this character would choose to wear this outfit.
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Old April 26th 07, 20:25   #15
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I could have kinda accepted Seven choosing the skin tight jump suit (and it being an reasonably in-character choice on the grounds of sleek efficiency with nothing to catch in ships moving parts or whatever) if ...... *IF* ...... they had given "sensible" shoes to go with it. Shoes that you could run, climb, whatever in.

When they put those heels on her shoes, they lost me with respect to believing that this character would choose to wear this outfit.
Wait a sec, you actually noticed what SHOES 7 of 9 was wearing? I could never get below her belt line...
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Old April 26th 07, 21:02   #16
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You've never noticed that women move differently (when walking, running, etc.) when they're wearing high heals than they do when wearing gym shoes (or something similar)?

Your eyes never need to get any lower than her butt (and often don't even need to get that low) to know that she's wearing heels.

And in the longer distance shots (when you see whole body forms rather than parts of bodies), the way her legs move make it obvious that she's in heels.
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Old April 26th 07, 23:56   #17
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Yeah, the heels were flat (I think there's a pun in there somewhere) stupid.
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Old April 27th 07, 01:06   #18
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Plus, I just don't think "cold and unemotional" = "sexy". Something the Trek makers must have gotten firmly embedded into their head at some point, considering how they utterly sexed up a Borg (!) and a Vulcan (!!!!!) ...
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Old April 27th 07, 01:28   #19
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A new Question that popped up in my mind ..

Cost of Living - WTF???

Is it me, or is TNG just dreadful at dealing with anything youth-related?

Wesley Crusher, The Bonding, Suddenly Human, Hero Worship, Cost of Living .. an entire sub-genre of TNG that is just pure PAIN.
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Plus, I just don't think "cold and unemotional" = "sexy". Something the Trek makers must have gotten firmly embedded into their head at some point, considering how they utterly sexed up a Borg (!) and a Vulcan (!!!!!) ...
On the other hand, "predominantly logical and analytical" doesn't necessarily equate to prudish or anti-sexual either.

(Also, it is worth noting that the Borg in question *was* Human. She spent most of her life in the Collective and was used to approaching problems in that manner. However, she was Human, and absent the hive mind subjegating her own, was still subject to having all of the feelings etc. implied by being Human.)
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