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Old July 12th 04, 11:26   #11
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Old July 12th 04, 12:35   #12
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Very pretty, but I do wonder about his sources. Has he sat down and worked from first principles (i.e. the episodes themselves) or did he just make it all up?

Also Z'ha'dum isn't on the map, not even as Alpha Omega 3.
Year 2258. EA didn't knew back then about Z'ha'dum. It lists only those territories that were known to EA at that time.
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Old July 12th 04, 13:12   #13
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So the question is then, if he was to update the map later after people knew about the existance of Z'ha'dum, where would he put it?
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Old July 12th 04, 14:20   #14
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the opposite end of the universe to the Vorlon Homeworld?
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Old July 13th 04, 12:43   #15
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Well, I would put it farther from EA's territory. I know that there were those Battlecrabs on Mars and Ganymede.. but.. isn't that "official" location is just too damn near to Earth/SOL overall?
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Old July 13th 04, 22:44   #16
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Yeah, and the EA was in the process of exploring the Rim. Z'ha'dum is on the Rim, and I would suppose that the Rim isn't near Earth space. If it was, then we live in a rather small galaxy.
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Old July 13th 04, 23:50   #17
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Actually, we do live in a spiral arm of the galaxy, so, we're closer to the rim than the center. I would expect Za'Ha Dum to be on the very tip of a spiral arm, while Earth is neared the middle.
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Old July 14th 04, 11:48   #18
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Indeed. If I'm not completely mistaken, the name of spiral arm in which we live is Orion. Wasn't it Orion's spiral arm officially or what. Hmm... Actually I shall take screenshot from ItB.

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I put those red rectangles around that little orange "blip" on those screens. They flash constantly in that scene. I believe that either those blips show their current location OR the location of SOL (current location would be most likely). So anyway, Prometheus isn't that far from SOL when they encounter Minbari. Ah my point! Anyway, near the edge of spiral arm is their location. That's approx. location of our solar system in reality also.
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Sounds good to me. And I think we can cheerfully ignore Morden's graphic in his conversation with Londo. In three different shots, the line is in three slightly different places. So let's stick with that galactic map.
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Old July 15th 04, 19:08   #20
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Also Z'ha'dum isn't on the map, not even as Alpha Omega 3.
I don't know where that version came from, but I have one saved that is very similar that shows Z'ha'dum. It's down in the lower left corner, pretty far away from everything else, which fits with it being near the Rim.
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