B5TV.COM. Babylon 5 forums Babylon 5 message for the fans from Claudia Christian Babylon 5

Go Back   B5TV.COM > Classic: Babylon 5, Crusade and Rangers > B5.related

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old August 4th 22, 03:10   #21
LateArrival
Ambassador
 
Join Date: Oct 2021
Posts: 210
Re: "Crusade: What the Hell Happened?"

Was reading further down the page at https://b5books.com/ and noticed there are Bundle Offers for the three Other books on Crusade. IF one purchases one of the Bundles, one gets that same version of the Crusade Encyclopedia at no extra charge. This new Encyclopedia appears to be a reprint of the Crusade entries published in the original B5 Encyclopedia, but as it's just the Crusade entries, isn't as Hefty as the Paperback version or the collector's $$ Signature Edition.

And the Biggest News is that B5Books is going to be offering EBOOKS on -- certain -- future releases, along with hardcover options as well.

=====================================

BONUS Big Announcement
THE CRUSADE ENCYCLOPEDIA

What is the Crusade Encyclopedia?
It's all the entries from the print edition of the Babylon 5 Encyclopedia that relate to the Crusade universe. This is a total of 438 entries. The 8.5x11 hardcover is 132 pages. The ebooks range from a low of ~24MB to a high of 137MB

We created the Crusade Encyclopedia for two reasons:
1) At 132 pages it's much easier to reference an entry than using the 838 page paperback and/or the 2-volume color Signature Edition.
2) We wanted something to re-immerse fans in the Crusade universe. So we created this sit-down-and-readable volume.

The Crusade encyclopedia is not for sale. You can only get it free as part of the hardcover and ebook bundle. We pay all shipping and all US sales tax for your free copy.

FOR exhaustive detail on these three titles go here
https://b5books.com/babylon-5-crusade-books/
=====================================
__________________
This is not a clear and present danger? I must read the rule book again. - Susan Ivanova

Last edited by LateArrival; August 4th 22 at 04:04.
LateArrival is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 4th 22, 14:08   #22
Springer
Telepath
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 608
Re: "Crusade: What the Hell Happened?"

I didn't receive an email either, and I did receive the previous one originally saying they wouldn't continue the What the Hell Happened books, so I wouldn't have seen this if you hadn't posted, so thanks!

Hmm, going to have to dig my books out of storage and see how many of those Crusade books I already have. The offer of the hardback encyclopaedia with the bundles is a very generous one.
Springer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 4th 22, 17:44   #23
LateArrival
Ambassador
 
Join Date: Oct 2021
Posts: 210
Re: "Crusade: What the Hell Happened?"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Springer View Post
I didn't receive an email either, and I did receive the previous one originally saying they wouldn't continue the What the Hell Happened books, so I wouldn't have seen this if you hadn't posted, so thanks!

Hmm, going to have to dig my books out of storage and see how many of those Crusade books I already have. The offer of the hardback encyclopaedia with the bundles is a very generous one.
(In Homer Simpson Voice: Hardcover Encyclopedia )
Regarding the mailing list: Heard from Captain Jaclyn that the Official Announcement should be going out via email tomorrow. In "A View From the Gallery" Delenn said that Time is Circular, so if one is always Arriving Late, could conceivably loop around and actually get there Early. Especially if Sector 14 is nearby.

Purchased the Ebook Bundle yesterday to have a look at the Crusade Encyclopedia since the Ebook versions are available "now". It's about 132-ish pages, and while it's the same material originally published in the B5 Encyclopedia, having only the Crusade entries allows for a fresh look at the series. Interesting Coincidence that Mr. Kitty and Mueller, Rolf are on the same page, as Mr. Mueller made the unwise decision of ordering the catnapping of Mr. Kitty... and while he didn't get all the money he was asking for, he did get a Shiny New Necklace from Max.
__________________
This is not a clear and present danger? I must read the rule book again. - Susan Ivanova

Last edited by LateArrival; August 4th 22 at 17:46.
LateArrival is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 4th 22, 19:03   #24
babylonfan
Commander
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 112
Re: "Crusade: What the Hell Happened?"

Quote:
Originally Posted by LateArrival View Post
Heard from Captain Jaclyn that the Official Announcement should be going out via email tomorrow.
Received the mail just 10 minutes ago.
babylonfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 6th 22, 17:23   #25
Looney
Psi Cop
 
Looney's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Middle West U.S.
Posts: 1,029
Re: "Crusade: What the Hell Happened?"

Yeah I got mine. Guess it is time to start saving some moola.
__________________
I'll be in the car. - Susan Ivanova WAR WITHOUT END PART ONE - 3.16
Looney is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 10th 22, 02:43   #26
LateArrival
Ambassador
 
Join Date: Oct 2021
Posts: 210
Re: "Crusade: What the Hell Happened?"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Looney View Post
Yeah I got mine. Guess it is time to start saving some moola.

Minor Update-ish
There was another newsletter on August 9th that provides links for purchasing both the hardcover encyclopedia ($49.99 + shipping/tax) and/or the ebook-download version ($18.99, no US tax). So if you had already purchased those three Crusade books in the original paperback release, do not have to re-purchase items to get the physical encyclopedia. Although why not get "all four" ebooks, as they don't take up extra space on the shelf!!

However, the web site doesn't have this info (yet?), and while I could paste the links here, do not want to push my luck. Am guessing it should be updated shortly, but if not, can always send a message to help@b5books.com .
__________________
This is not a clear and present danger? I must read the rule book again. - Susan Ivanova
LateArrival is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 16th 22, 10:35   #27
Psi Cop
Ranger
 
Psi Cop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 51
Send a message via Skype™ to Psi Cop
Re: "Crusade: What the Hell Happened?"

Worst spin-off series ever. Boring premise (5 years searching for a cure to a virus? Really?). Uninteresting characters with none of the charm of the original cast (it desperately needed one or two as regulars). Needed to focus on the important unfinished stories from original series (on screen not in books which for me are separate): Telepath War, Earthgov after Clark, the Narn and Centauri storylines, Lyta and her attempts to establish a telepath homeworld. Some were hinted at but should have been the whole focus of the show.
__________________
Trust The Corps
Psi Cop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 16th 22, 11:43   #28
Jan
Psi Cop
 
Jan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 2,053
Re: "Crusade: What the Hell Happened?"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Psi Cop View Post
Worst spin-off series ever. Boring premise (5 years searching for a cure to a virus? Really?). Uninteresting characters with none of the charm of the original cast (it desperately needed one or two as regulars). Needed to focus on the important unfinished stories from original series (on screen not in books which for me are separate): Telepath War, Earthgov after Clark, the Narn and Centauri storylines, Lyta and her attempts to establish a telepath homeworld. Some were hinted at but should have been the whole focus of the show.
What makes you think that they were going to spend 5 years searching for the cure? If they'd been able to even finish the first season, that would have been abundently clear (and there were lots of hints in what we did see) Lyta was supposed to be the telepath in 'The Path of Sorrows' but they couldn't come to an agreement with Tallman. It had a regular from the original show. Bester would have been in the next episode to be shot if the show hadn't been shut down.

Contrary to you, I liked all of the cast except I thought that the doctor needed more fleshing out.

You didn't like it, and that's fine. But your post seemt to indicate that you think JMS got stupid in between shows which really didn't happen.
__________________
"You know, I used to think that life was terribly unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair? If all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe." ~~Marcus Cole
Jan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 16th 22, 14:59   #29
KoshN
Moderator
 
KoshN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Pittsburgh PA Suburbs, USA
Posts: 8,776
Re: "Crusade: What the Hell Happened?"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jan View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Psi Cop View Post
Worst spin-off series ever. Boring premise (5 years searching for a cure to a virus? Really?). Uninteresting characters with none of the charm of the original cast (it desperately needed one or two as regulars). Needed to focus on the important unfinished stories from original series (on screen not in books which for me are separate): Telepath War, Earthgov after Clark, the Narn and Centauri storylines, Lyta and her attempts to establish a telepath homeworld. Some were hinted at but should have been the whole focus of the show.
What makes you think that they were going to spend 5 years searching for the cure? If they'd been able to even finish the first season, that would have been abundently clear (and there were lots of hints in what we did see) Lyta was supposed to be the telepath in 'The Path of Sorrows' but they couldn't come to an agreement with Tallman. It had a regular from the original show. Bester would have been in the next episode to be shot if the show hadn't been shut down.

Contrary to you, I liked all of the cast except I thought that the doctor needed more fleshing out.

You didn't like it, and that's fine. But your post seemt to indicate that you think JMS got stupid in between shows which really didn't happen.
I completely agree with Jan.
__________________
Mac Breck (KoshN)
-----------------------------
"Crusade" (1999) - "War Zone"
Max Eilerson: "The story of my life. I finally find a city like this, intact, deserted for ten thousand years. Probably contains hundreds of patents that I could exploit and I'm going to die. I can appreciate dramatic irony as much as the next person, but this is pushing it a bit."
KoshN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 17th 22, 07:08   #30
Springer
Telepath
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 608
Re: "Crusade: What the Hell Happened?"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Psi Cop View Post
Worst spin-off series ever. Boring premise (5 years searching for a cure to a virus? Really?). Uninteresting characters with none of the charm of the original cast (it desperately needed one or two as regulars). Needed to focus on the important unfinished stories from original series (on screen not in books which for me are separate): Telepath War, Earthgov after Clark, the Narn and Centauri storylines, Lyta and her attempts to establish a telepath homeworld. Some were hinted at but should have been the whole focus of the show.
I wouldn't call it the worst ever, but I agree that it wasn't the best. To an extent I think that can be understood given how TNT messed around with it, it's a miracle they were able to produce a coherent show at all. But personally I did find some of the stories lacked impact, and I wasn't sold on some of the writing. Given that everyone on Earth was now on a countdown, there was a surprising lack of urgency to the storylines. Characters (and cast) were fine but I think some of them lacked energy. Galen was cool and a good addition to the B5 universe, but he spoke soooo ponderously sometimes. Matheson and the doctor were neither here nor there, but they could have developed as the show went on. I didn't like the actress playing Dureena, but at least she did have some energy on screen. The music was terrible and robbed the show of some dramatic impact. The effects weren't great and relied too much on unconvincing green screen, But there was some good stuff in there too. Eilerson was fun and a standout, Gary Cole was excellent as always. It was good to see Lochley fleshed out a bit more and to see Franklin again. If you compare it to the first 13 episodes of B5, I think they are mostly comparable in quality, and look how B5 turned out! Left to its own devices, I think Crusade could have gotten much better than what we saw.

It wasn't going to be 5 years searching for the cure, the cure was going to be found in season 2, the main storyline would be about the Shadow tech that Earth is using, as exemplified by the vessel that destroyed Gideon's ship. So I think it would have delved into Earth after Clark, and no doubt more B5 characters would have returned.

I think though what you describe as wanting is a direct sequel to B5, which I sympathise with, but I think that's a little bit unfair on Crusade as it was never about being that. When JMS first spoke of a sequel series, I think there were plans for it to be about the Rangers, 'Empire building' (I don't quite like the phrase, but developing the Alliance is what it means), and would have featured Sheridan and Garibaldi. I'd have liked to have seen more of the Rangers and empire building in season 5 to be honest, rather than Byron.

Last edited by Springer; August 17th 22 at 07:11.
Springer is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 20:55.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
2001 - 2018 B5TV.COM