B5TV.COM. Babylon 5 forums Babylon 5 message for the fans from Claudia Christian Babylon 5

Go Back   B5TV.COM > Babylon 5, Crusade and Rangers > B5.world

View Poll Results: Dust To Dust
A -- Excellent 9 29.03%
B -- Good 19 61.29%
C -- Average 2 6.45%
D -- Poor 1 3.23%
F -- Failure 0 0%
Voters: 31. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old August 1st 11, 02:53   #31
hypatia
First One
 
hypatia's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 27,289
Re: EpDis: Sic Transit Vir

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jade Jaguar View Post
Trying to think of the Zarg now, so that it fills my consciousness... blotting out all else...
I could read back, to see what inspired this reply. But it's more fun to just ask:

is this some new self-torture action, meant to discipline the mind?
__________________
"If we crave some cosmic purpose, then let us find ourselves a worthy goal."
-- Carl Sagan, Pale Blue Dot
hypatia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 2nd 11, 04:50   #32
Jade Jaguar
First One
 
Jade Jaguar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Ann Arbor, Mi, USA
Posts: 9,727
Re: EpDis: Sic Transit Vir

Just scroll up a bit. It was Jan's description of Londo and G'Kar's tryst.
__________________
"Those who would give up essential liberty
to purchase a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin 1775

"I know that the hypnotized never lie... Do ya?"
Pete Townshend 1971

FREE LEONARD PELTIER
Jade Jaguar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 21st 12, 10:45   #33
Alioth
Commander
 
Alioth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 115
Re: EpDis: Sic Transit Vir

Was (future Regent) Virini's joke to Vir sort of a foreshadowing?

Q. What is more dangerous than a locked room full of angry Narns?
A. One angry Narn with a key!

(Besides the next scene showing the locked room full of Narn refugees, no doubt angered by the grievous things done to their world.)

G'Kar had noted (I believe previously) that "humans were the key" to the future of the galaxy... and just a couple episodes after this one, he is finally let into Sheridan's inner circle, and thus given this "key", in a way.... And in a way, he becomes very dangerous to Centauri designs on the Narns once he has this "key". (And "the key" might also be his own enlightenment, which allows him the patience and strength to thread the needle that he must (cooperate with Londo against Cartagia, bearing all that that entailed) to ultimately free his world.)

It seemed like a throwaway line at first, but even a little joke by a flighty court popinjay could have significance.

Last edited by Alioth; July 21st 12 at 10:52.
Alioth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 21st 12, 14:07   #34
Galahad
First One
 
Galahad's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Alcester, Warwickshire, UK
Posts: 3,779
Send a message via MSN to Galahad Send a message via Yahoo to Galahad Send a message via Skype™ to Galahad
Re: EpDis: Sic Transit Vir

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alioth View Post
Was (future Regent) Virini's joke to Vir sort of a foreshadowing?

Q. What is more dangerous than a locked room full of angry Narns?
A. One angry Narn with a key!

(Besides the next scene showing the locked room full of Narn refugees, no doubt angered by the grievous things done to their world.)

G'Kar had noted (I believe previously) that "humans were the key" to the future of the galaxy... and just a couple episodes after this one, he is finally let into Sheridan's inner circle, and thus given this "key", in a way.... And in a way, he becomes very dangerous to Centauri designs on the Narns once he has this "key". (And "the key" might also be his own enlightenment, which allows him the patience and strength to thread the needle that he must (cooperate with Londo against Cartagia, bearing all that that entailed) to ultimately free his world.)

It seemed like a throwaway line at first, but even a little joke by a flighty court popinjay could have significance.
I love your thinking there. Nice logic.
__________________
We live for The One, we die for The One

"We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth."

Visit NiCK'S SANCTUARY
Galahad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 22nd 12, 20:07   #35
Teep Trick
Ranger
 
Teep Trick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 43
Re: EpDis: Sic Transit Vir

Londo using that sword to go after the bug somehow makes me think of Vir taking (that same?) sword after the Drazi vendor that ,hey!>, bugged his bags in the Zocalo.
Teep Trick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 8th 15, 03:29   #36
Lennier's Tears
Ambassador
 
Lennier's Tears's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: DC-ish
Posts: 302
Re: EpDis: Sic Transit Vir

An episode all about Vir? What an excellent idea! Another really clever episode name, too!

I've always liked the bit with the bugs in Londo's quarters. It makes sense in the context of Babylon 5 breaking away from Earth, and not everything operating quite as it should. Mostly it's just funny. I still fairly regularly use the phrase "There are more of you!!"

We've seen the Vir character develop and he really gets to shine, here. The bit in the teaser is great, where we see him in a room full of Narns, just after Virini makes that joke about a room full of angry Narns. I've only recently started noticing the guilty look on Vir's face when Londo asks him if he has anything interesting to report. I guess before I was too distracted by the Lyndisty storyline, because this happens just after Londo hides her in his bedroom.

I love the whole Abrahamo Linconi thing. Vir trying his best to do something good. I feel so bad for him when he's trying to get Ivanova to stop talking about it in front of Londo, but of course that's not happening.

The awkward conversation between Vir and Ivanova is pretty funny, but I'd agree with Alioth upthread that it seems unlikely she wouldn't have known about the Centauri's six appendages. But, funny. Vir being his usual awkward bumbling self. It works.

Lyndisty is interesting. "A true Centauri" indeed. I'm kind of disappointed in Vir in that he is still sort of interested in her after he finds out that she has singlehandedly murdered something like a thousand Narns. Isn't the whole point of his character that he's not that kind of Centauri? I guess he's more conflicted when he finds them attractive?

[Off topic: Nevermind, it's been taken care of, thank you!]

Last edited by Lennier's Tears; February 8th 15 at 05:49.
Lennier's Tears is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 11th 15, 20:07   #37
RW7427
Moderator
 
RW7427's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: NE of Cleveland, OH
Posts: 46,206
Re: EpDis: Sic Transit Vir

Lyndisty is kinda creepy
__________________
Since light travels faster than sound, some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
RW7427 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old February 11th 15, 21:19   #38
Lennier's Tears
Ambassador
 
Lennier's Tears's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: DC-ish
Posts: 302
Re: EpDis: Sic Transit Vir

Quote:
Originally Posted by RW7427 View Post
Lyndisty is kinda creepy
Kinda??
Lennier's Tears is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 12th 15, 01:12   #39
hypatia
First One
 
hypatia's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 27,289
Re: EpDis: Sic Transit Vir

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lennier's Tears View Post
Lyndisty is interesting. "A true Centauri" indeed. I'm kind of disappointed in Vir in that he is still sort of interested in her after he finds out that she has singlehandedly murdered something like a thousand Narns. Isn't the whole point of his character that he's not that kind of Centauri? I guess he's more conflicted when he finds them attractive?
Maybe it's just Vir's version of the old story of someone (usually a woman) who falls for a guy who seems to be the biggest jerk imaginable.

Do you think Vir would imagine he would "change" her?
__________________
"If we crave some cosmic purpose, then let us find ourselves a worthy goal."
-- Carl Sagan, Pale Blue Dot
hypatia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old February 12th 15, 03:20   #40
Lennier's Tears
Ambassador
 
Lennier's Tears's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: DC-ish
Posts: 302
Re: EpDis: Sic Transit Vir

I think he was imagining exactly that, in that scene at the end, where they are telling each other the other is "confused" or something to that effect

She's also quite young (I think?) and a product of her environment. I can see how someone (Vir) could excuse her horrible views on that basis, but actual murder is a bit harder to ignore or justify. How could she ever atone for that? I think young Vir is just not thinking straight
Lennier's Tears is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 21:22.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
2001 - 2008 B5TV.COM