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Old August 31st 07, 16:19   #11
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If you're not Byron fans you should rather like how it was originally planned than how it ended up panning out. If the Civil War arc had carried over into season 5, the Byron-Ivanova relationship (instead of Byron-Lyta) and Tradgedy of Telepaths storyline would have been over in a scant few episodes, rather than half a series of long-haired weirdos singing about how we'll all come together in a better place.
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Old August 31st 07, 16:27   #12
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I'm not sure I've ever heard that Ivanova's telepathic ability was going to grow, but I wouldn't be surprised. If the relationship part of what we got between Lyta and Byron was originally going to have been between Ivanova and Byron, I imagine the telepaths learning that they were the products of Vorlon creations for use as weapons against the Shadows would have come out while Ivanova and Byron went at it, so maybe Ivanova's latent powers came out more strongly then?
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Old August 31st 07, 16:31   #13
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...If the Civil War arc had carried over into season 5, the Byron-Ivanova relationship (instead of Byron-Lyta) and Tradgedy of Telepaths storyline would have been over in a scant few episodes....
It's my understanding that the telepath colony would have been established toward the end of season four, had jms not bumped it in order to get in the end of the Earth Civil War arc. So, I'm not sure the overall amount of time the telepaths would have been around would have been all that less, it just wouldn't have felt all clumped together the way it does now.
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Old August 31st 07, 20:19   #14
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Still, it would've been interesting to see Ivanova continue on the show.
I agree! Absofragginlutely!
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Old September 3rd 07, 11:42   #15
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It's my understanding that the telepath colony would have been established toward the end of season four, had jms not bumped it in order to get in the end of the Earth Civil War arc. So, I'm not sure the overall amount of time the telepaths would have been around would have been all that less, it just wouldn't have felt all clumped together the way it does now.
You're right about introducing the telepaths earlier, but I'm pretty sure in the script books JMS said their story would've been briefer, and Byron's in particular (the Byron-Ivanova relationship only encompassing an episode or so).
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Old September 3rd 07, 12:24   #16
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You're right about introducing the telepaths earlier, but I'm pretty sure in the script books JMS said their story would've been briefer, and Byron's in particular (the Byron-Ivanova relationship only encompassing an episode or so).
Well its a shame that isnt the way it went down. While overall i probably preferr Season 5 out of all the rest that 12 or so episode arc and especially the character of Byron really annoyed me. Especially the singing lol
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Old September 3rd 07, 17:19   #17
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Well its a shame that isnt the way it went down. While overall i probably preferr Season 5 out of all the rest that 12 or so episode arc and especially the character of Byron really annoyed me. Especially the singing lol
my god how can you not be a season 3 whore?

besides byrons character was probably the worst written character in the entire show.
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Old September 3rd 07, 17:40   #18
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my god how can you not be a season 3 whore?
Season 3 Comes Close lol, Especially given the entrance of Marcus. But i preferred the Presidential Storylines was all. If I had to rank the series and movies of the B5 univers it would go
  1. Babylon 5: A Call to Arms
  2. Crusade
  3. The Legend of The Rangers
  4. B5 TLT: Voices In The Dark
  5. Babylon 5 Season 5
  6. Babylon 5 Season 1 (because of Sinclair)
  7. Babylon 5 Season 3 (because of Marcus and the fights)
  8. Babylon 5 Season 4
  9. Babylon 5: The River of Souls
  10. Babylon 5 Season 2
  11. Babylon 5: The Gathering
  12. Babylon 5: In The Beginning
  13. Babylon 5: Thirdspace (worst of the bunch, bt is B5 so still gd lol)
Im sure many would disagree, well lets see.
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Old September 3rd 07, 18:41   #19
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This leads me to wonder whether Byron would have been less annoying if he had only been in a few episodes. Secondly, how would his lines have changed if he had been talking to Ivonova rather than Lyta? I really cannot imagine Ivonova putting up with any "willow tree" crap.
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Old September 4th 07, 03:09   #20
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Susan and Byron??? Eeeewwwww!

Sorry, not a huge Byron fan... but Susan rocks! As for Marcus, I LOVED him! What a great character!
Byron and ANY of the B5 women I like..... "Eeeewwwww!" Talk about Ivanova trading down!
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