View Poll Results: Keep Chapel
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B -- Good
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C -- Average
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August 22nd 07, 22:11
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First One
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: UK
Posts: 373
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Re: EpDis: The Gathering
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Originally Posted by Chilli
Does anyone have ANY clue what he is talking about?
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No, but a big visual anomaly that springs to my mind is the stuntman who doubles for Garibaldi when he gets thrown through the air by an explosion during the fight with the assassin near the end. For a few seconds he has a very full head of blond hair.
Last edited by RMcD; August 22nd 07 at 22:21.
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August 22nd 07, 22:37
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Psi Cop
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 1,816
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Re: EpDis: The Gathering
I'm not certain of this but I think that in one of the shots looking down on the witness stand, one of the characters is wrong. Either Sinclair is shown instead of Kyle or vice-versa. I think.
Jan
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August 22nd 07, 23:10
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Commander
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 168
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Re: EpDis: The Gathering
I gave this an A because in spite of its flaws it fulfilled its primary function masterfully: namely introducing characters and a story arc that holds your attention strongly enough to make you want to come back to the series.
Some call it too slow in other places whilst still throwing in too much at a new viewer for a pilot, but it was this pacing that made me trust JMS as a writer... I felt like he had all the details he needed in place and would only spend time on something if it turned out to be relevant later (future episodes would prove that many things which initially appear irrelevant or throw away come back around much later).
There is so much mystery in the pilot... how can you walk away from the series if you think the writer actually has a good story to tell.
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August 23rd 07, 00:44
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High Treason Prevention Officer
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Vienna, Austria
Posts: 7,496
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Re: EpDis: The Gathering
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Originally Posted by Jan
I'm not certain of this but I think that in one of the shots looking down on the witness stand, one of the characters is wrong. Either Sinclair is shown instead of Kyle or vice-versa. I think.
Jan
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YES, that is it. Sinclair is being questioned by G'Kar. The wide shot shows Kyle in the stand. I have seen the Gathering a million times, and I did not notice this. Not once.
Amazing.
54 minutes in on the original version. As I don't yet own the TNT version on DVD, I cannot say where it is on it, or if it even is in it.
Some of the shots around 51 minutes in seem odd too. The backdrop behind Sinclair seems to alter, but that could just be angles fooling me.
Last edited by Chilli; August 23rd 07 at 00:50.
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August 23rd 07, 03:06
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Soul Hunter
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: The upper left-hand corner of the US
Posts: 10,571
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Re: EpDis: The Gathering
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Originally Posted by Skander
(also one of the reason's I'm one of the 6 people who think Starship Troopers is brilliant)
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Hah! I loved Starship Troopers. Of course, I was drunk when I saw it, so a lot of it escapes my memory, but what I recall was great.
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August 23rd 07, 19:37
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Lurker
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 15
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Re: EpDis: The Gathering
Okay, two people have come out in open support of "Starship Troopers".
That tears it, this community is awesome!
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As if building a community focused around discussing the finer points of Babylon 5 wasn't enough of a clue for me, I know.
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August 25th 07, 20:31
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#27
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First One
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Ann Arbor, Mi, USA
Posts: 9,727
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Re: EpDis: The Gathering
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Originally Posted by Skander
Okay, two people have come out in open support of "Starship Troopers".
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I can sum that film up in six words: Cute young Nazis squash giant bugs.
Okay, I thought it was amusing. Once...
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May 4th 08, 01:15
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Telepath
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Sofia,Bulgaria
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Re: EpDis: The Gathering
I've just seen the special edition of "The Gathering" for the first time.I've noticed that JMS has changed the appearance of Kosh's "hand" in the scene when he is poisoned.That's a very good move and now it looks like a real part of a Vorlon body unlike the older version where it looked just like a human hand.
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May 4th 08, 01:37
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Moderator
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Virginia
Posts: 11,892
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Re: EpDis: The Gathering
With it looking like a regular human hand, I always thought that that was part of what Lyta says prior to doing the mind pscan: that it's "subjective" in that she'd be seeing herself in Kosh's place. But yeah, then they made the hand glowing and everything for the The Gathering 2.0, so I guess Lyta's subjectivism isn't quite applicapble now.
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May 4th 08, 01:50
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Telepath
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Sofia,Bulgaria
Posts: 500
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Re: EpDis: The Gathering
I still can't understand the whole poisoning thing.How can you poison someone who has passed beyond the physical body into a being of pure energy?Or maybe the poison is created to drain life energy from the person and that's why Vorlons are vulnerable.
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