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C -- Average 7 41.18%
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Old September 29th 06, 15:42   #11
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Re: EpDis: The Paragon Of Animals

I stand by what I have always said on this ... I think Byron was intended to generate mixed emotions in the viewer, i.e. we sympathise with his cause, and with what has been done to 'his people' down the years, but find his attitude and superiority complex as annoying and disturbing as Bester's.
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Old September 29th 06, 15:50   #12
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Exactly.
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Old September 29th 06, 16:19   #13
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I stand by what I have always said on this ... I think Byron was intended to generate mixed emotions in the viewer, i.e. we sympathise with his cause, and with what has been done to 'his people' down the years, but find his attitude and superiority complex as annoying and disturbing as Bester's.
I agree with most of that, but, I don't think we can really compare Bester to Byron. Bester is a character people love to hate, Byron is a character many wish didn't exist.
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Old September 29th 06, 20:09   #14
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Re: EpDis: The Paragon Of Animals

I'm afraid that I found both Byron, and the actor unfortunately, kind of like "vanilla"....just not enough punch there for me, you know? I did like the story concept, so I wonder if a different actor could have brought a little something more to it for me....
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I'm afraid that I found both Byron, and the actor unfortunately, kind of like "vanilla"....just not enough punch there for me, you know? I did like the story concept, so I wonder if a different actor could have brought a little something more to it for me....
Well .. I disliked Byron on both the rational and the irrational level.

I found him deeply unappealing .. but even when just looking at the story lines, I found him massively disgusting. What a little hypocrite, honestly.

He basically made the very valid cause the telepaths had seem like a matter of a bunch of abused children being pissed off.

Giving Sheridan - who took down the evil empire that had been opposing him - and the Alliance, which had NOTHING to do with the problems the human race had created for its telepath took ANY credibility he had ever had from him. His actions were so dominated by hatred .. while pretending to be such a holy angelic little lamb. Honestly .. to hell with that fucker. .. it's the best thing that could have happened for the telepaths' cause to get rid of that kind of leader.
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Old September 29th 06, 21:46   #16
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Re: EpDis: The Paragon Of Animals

Dang, He's got a very full history of Video game voicing, at least 75.

Boxie, you Didn't like the actor? So you dislike Morann in "In the Beginning" who was also played by Robin Atkin Downes?
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Old September 29th 06, 22:15   #17
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Giving Sheridan - who took down the evil empire that had been opposing him - and the Alliance, which had NOTHING to do with the problems the human race had created for its telepath took ANY credibility he had ever had from him.
Sorry, Chilli. It may be the cold I caught but I can't for the life of me see where the "Giving Sheridan - " part of this leads to. I know you had a point, did you leave a key word out somewhere?
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Old September 29th 06, 22:26   #18
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Re: EpDis: The Paragon Of Animals

I think the word left out was "blame" hyp. Byron and his group blamed Sheridan, Delenn, and the Alliance for their current suffering/repression they experienced at the hands of the Earth Alliance government because Sheridan and Delenn were in a position to help telepaths establish a homeworld of their own independent from EarthGov. Byron and his group believed that Sheridan and Delenn had a moral imperative and the responsibility to do so because they were the leaders of the war that the Vorlons essentially bred telepaths to be weapons for. But now that the war was over, Sheridan and Delenn, in the opinions of Byron and his group, were just not concerned with the deathgrip-tight rules that telepaths were forced to live under; as long as the telepaths served their purpose as weapons, they were then pushed aside or forgotten as Sheridan and Delenn went about forming their new galactic government.
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Old September 29th 06, 22:29   #19
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So you think that was supposed to read "Giving Sheridan blame"?

That would make sense, yes.
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My reaction to Byron? First, he was an idiot, because he tried to scare people into doing what he wants. Which rarely ends well. Second, he was doubly an idiot, because he should have gone straight to Delenn. If anyone could wrastle the League into doing something positive, it was Delenn -- and if any race had spare planets lying around, it was the Minbari.
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