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View Poll Results: Ship Of Tears
A -- Excellent 0 0%
B -- Good 7 25.93%
C -- Average 14 51.85%
D -- Poor 4 14.81%
F -- Failure 2 7.41%
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Old February 8th 06, 19:13   #21
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Re: EpDis: Grey 17 Is Missing

Zaw?
I was talking about Lorien using irony...
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Old February 8th 06, 19:27   #22
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Ha ha. Sorry, I thought your comment was aimed at me. I totally misread your post - I shall hang my head in shame!

Having re-read it, I can see what you are getting at.
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Old February 9th 06, 03:17   #23
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Damn! I hate coming into a thread after the mistaken/embarassing/offensive post has been removed. It always makes me wonder what I missed.
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Old February 9th 06, 03:20   #24
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Heh, yeah- Elric, we're a forgiving lot, everyone makes mistakes. Especially Joe.

(Joe, Elric just misunderstand my feeble attempt at irony- he thought my bitch about repeating shit was directed towards him, not Lorien)
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Old February 9th 06, 10:20   #25
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Thanks, I guess I had a bad day at the office
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Old February 9th 06, 13:02   #26
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C the appearance of Neroon is the only thing that makes this episode watchable.The B story was laughable.
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Old February 9th 06, 15:51   #27
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Nerd nitpick- I believe the Neroon thing was the B story, while Garibaldi's was the A story.
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Old February 9th 06, 17:00   #28
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Nerd nitpick- I believe the Neroon thing was the B story, while Garibaldi's was the A story.
Yeah, I agree. It wouldn't make too much sense for the episode to receive its title from the B-story, so Garibaldi's romp would have to be the A-story. It's just that Garibaldi's romp is so bland and groan-provoking that it feels like it should be the B-story.
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I think in this case the Garibaldi/Zarg thing was the "B" story, the Neroon/Marcus thing was the "C" story and the episode's real problem was that it didn't have an "A" story. Of course the Zarg part was made that much worse by the truly lousy rubber suit (one of the few time's B5's limited budget really hurt a story by undermining it to the point of distraction) and JMS's apparent belief the early firearms were steam-powered.

Still for me, in the form of the DVD, "Grey 17" is a great episode because I simply fast-forward through everything that doesn't involve Marcus, Delenn or Neroon. (In fact, I'm thinking of off-loading the ep to my PC and re-editing it into "'Grey 17 is Missing' is Missing". )

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Oh boy did I goof
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