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July 13th 05, 08:49
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Re: EpDis: And Now For A Word
I really like episides like this where they do things a little differently. I thought the news report idea was very good and it really did feel like you were watching the news - to my knowledge this had not been done before (but I'm sure it has been done since).
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July 19th 05, 14:23
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Re: EpDis: And Now For A Word
Well.... It is hard to please everyone. While some hated this episode, I loved it. Because:
1st- It is the best episode to show new viewers
2nd- You feel like you are an earth viewer, since it is a "documentary" episode.
3rd- It is well seen the behavior of most important races, namely: Narn, Centauri, Minbari, Vorlon and Human.
4th- It is well shown the "dynamics" of B5 environment.
I recommend for those who has no patience to start from the very begginning. This episode lets you catch the saga to keep going.
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August 24th 10, 16:04
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Re: EpDis: And Now For A Word
I liked this episode; I think it would be a good introduction for newcomers, though it offers little by way of information for those who are keeping up with the details of the story arc. I like the way it's presented, as if we're watching the programme directly. Considering the way B5 is presented in the news later on, it is shown quite positively here.
Did anyone else think of Galaxy Quest's "Never give up, never surrender" when G'Kar said the Narn motto is "Never surrender"?!
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August 24th 10, 19:30
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Re: EpDis: And Now For A Word
Galaxy Quest - 1999
And Now for a Word - 1995
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August 24th 10, 21:50
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Re: EpDis: And Now For A Word
Precisely - Galaxy Quest could have referenced B5.
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August 25th 10, 09:09
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Re: EpDis: And Now For A Word
That's a really good episode for sure. It has action, intrigue, drama, tragedy, it's loaded with negative elements and yet manages to finish on a positive note. It has several instances of subtle irony for those who already know the story. And because it is, or seems to be intended as an introductory episode, it could have been made as a straightforward, dumbed-down piece. But it wasn't, it was intelligent and thoughtful, with great dialogue about human attitudes toward the Minbari War and other alien threats. I remember seeing it when it aired, thinking this is weird, this is just a silly way to do an episode. But by the time it was over I thought it was one of the more satisfying ones they did up to that point. Maybe overall. And they tell us in the beginning that it ends with the deaths of hundreds of people, and yet don't really give anything away! Very engaging.
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March 25th 11, 01:21
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Re: EpDis: And Now For A Word
Some subtle hints of jingoistic bias in the news, like the editorializing in their mention of the Mars rebellions, Clark's popularity "soaring to new heights" (I think that was the line) due to his "focus on Earth" (more a slogan than a meaningful statement of fact apropos to journalism), and of course her treatment of Delenn--interjecting an accusation while Delenn was trying to answer her question (how she thought humans would feel about her metamorphosis) and basically backing her into a corner--that was painful to see. And of course, "but we didn't lose the Minbari War--they surrendered." I love Sheridan's response to that, "of course"--you could see him saying "I see" in his head and getting a clear idea of what he was dealing with from that exchange.
And you know what? We see little things like this in the news today, increasingly so with the 24-hour-opinionverse of cable TV. But it was downright objective compared to what came a couple years later.
Kosh blowing her off was classic too.
I thought the Psi Corps PSA was a bit cheesy--kind of like a PSA you might have seen in the 1950s (then again, they were probably in a very 50s-ish time on Earth, a period of conformity and paranoia). Might have been interesting to see a commercial for a product as well (like normal TV commercials) for some period color.
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