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Boxie March 27th 07 02:10

The Dresden Files
 
:D This show is sooooo good...trust me, you have to watch it! I love the books, and for me it's really hard for a movie or television show to top the book(s) that inspired it, but I think they're doing a really good job bringing these characters to life. If you haven't seen it, you really should give it a try! I think you'd love Harry... and Bob, :D and all the cool, creepy "things" they run into!

I don't start many threads, and honestly I'm surprised someone hasn't started one on this before now... but it's just too good not to talk about it.

:o :) So...what do you guys think? Has anyone else been watching it?

Alluveal March 27th 07 02:55

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I tried watching the first few eps and it seemed like another version of Charmed (with only stand-alone episodes.) You're saying to stick with it a little more? :)

PillowRock March 27th 07 15:31

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So far, so good. Remains to be seen how it goes as series over the long haul, though.

They're building a kinda interesting collection of recurring characters ...... well, what could turn out to be that, at any rate. I think the only non-regular who has actually shown up more than once so far is Bianca the vampire. (Or have they shown the same Wizard Internal Affairs equivalent a couple times? Not Morgan, him I consider a regular, above him.) But it's early enough in the run of the show that not having them come back yet doesn't mean that everything and everyone is going to just disappear as a one-off.

And they've been dropping some references to backstory (and partially sketching in some bits of it) that hasn't been entirely filled in for the audience yet (at least not when I've watched; I think I've missed one or two though).

It was nice seeing Claudia Black do a turn as a P.I.'s assistant turned P.I. (when her boss is killed) in the last episode.

Like a lot of shows, I think it helps a lot if their sense of humor appeals to you. (We're back to Cartagia's one truly rational quote: "Humor is so subjective".)


I haven't seen enough of Charmed to comment on the comparison.

Demonn March 28th 07 04:38

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Sci-Fi had to F*** with the order of the eps... I don't know what exactly they switched around but you can tell.

Great show, the eps keep gettin better & better.

Lyta March 28th 07 05:17

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Hmm, I guess we should stick with it a bit longer. It's on the TiVo but it's the absolute last thing we watch when there is nothing else on. It just hasn't grabbed our attention yet.

Demonn May 21st 07 12:48

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Did this show get cancelled?

KoshN May 21st 07 14:47

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I plan to catch it on DVD.
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=7335

Looks like it might be interesting, in a ~Special Unit 2~Kolchak~ sort of way (standalone episodes & supernatural villains). I'm tempted to buy it, rather than rent it on Netflix, since it's only 12 episodes. Looks like a UK-style short season (as opposed to a standard US 22-26 episode season).



Currently it's listed as "completed airing its current season, on hiatus or fate to be determined" on
http://www.thefutoncritic.com/showat...genre=&studio=

Boxie May 21st 07 21:40

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Originally Posted by Demonn (Post 297424)
Did this show get cancelled?

:( I hope not...

Demonn May 22nd 07 04:28

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Ahh... well I guess I missed the last ep. I've been changin the channel to Sci-Fi the last two weekends but all I get is a movie. Looks like I'm waiting for DVD now & if they do cancel it I'm gonna be pissed.

Also if they keep Painkiller Jane and cancel any one of the shows I watch I'm gonna take it personally... not gonna say what I'll do.

Boxie May 25th 07 01:58

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Quote:

Also if they keep Painkiller Jane and cancel any one of the shows I watch I'm gonna take it personally... not gonna say what I'll do.
:lol:

Demonn September 5th 07 15:48

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CANCELED... Scifi sucks a$$.

Boxie September 7th 07 20:12

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:(

Mindwalker September 7th 07 20:14

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of course....it was a good show

therefore it had to go.

KoshN September 7th 07 21:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mindwalker (Post 308215)
of course....it was a good show

therefore it had to go.

Well, that's more true of FOX network than The Sci-Fi Channel.

I bought The Dresden Files DVD set a few days ago, but haven't watched it yet, because I'm on a SG-1 Season 10 streak, and have two episodes of that one left to watch. Are the Dresden Files episodes in the correct order on the DVD set, or did they follow the airing order (like WHV did with Crusade)? Is the correct airing order shown anywhere? I'm new to this show.

KoshN September 21st 07 21:11

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I haven't read any of the Dresden Files books yet. That said, I found this to be a great show. Figures that The Sci-Fi Channel would cancel it. :(

Boxie September 23rd 07 18:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KoshN (Post 309015)
I haven't read any of the Dresden Files books yet.

:DDO read the books, KoshN! I love the show, but the books are amazing!

KoshN September 23rd 07 20:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boxie (Post 309130)
:DDO read the books, KoshN! I love the show, but the books are amazing!

Oh, I plan to read the books. ;) I finished the DVD set on Sep. 21st and like to read related books after having watched the TV episodes because it gives me visuals and voices to plug in as I read, and because people who read the books first are usually the ones who are most disappointed and virulently against what they saw on TV. Most of the reviewers of "The Dresden Files" who have trashed the TV show, are the ones who read the books first.

Demonn July 18th 08 05:42

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I missed the very last episode that aired for the show on TV so I figured I could Netflix it. I forgot that the SciFi channel F'ed with the order of the episodes so the disc I got had all the episodes that I had already seen. Now I'm on the fence... I don't know if I want to buy the box set or just let it go. SciFi kicked the show to the curb. I was gonna write a letter & I normally don't do letters.

I was watching Deadwood the other day and the guy who played Dresden turned up in it. He was a hired gun that shot a cornish worker in a bar & then later he got his throat slit by Swaringen. At least the guy is getting work.

KoshN August 27th 08 04:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boxie (Post 309130)
:DDO read the books, KoshN! I love the show, but the books are amazing!

I've read:

Book 1 -Storm Front
Book 2 - Fool Moon
Book 3 - Grave Peril

...and am near the end of ...

Book 4 - Summer Knight.

Enjoyed 'em all, each more than the one before it, but putting Harry through greater and even greater hell and suffering is getting a tad old. Harry and Job have a lot in common. :rolleyes: I've bought all the books thru White Night, and will be reading them all, in order. Waiting for Small Favor to come out in paperback.

Mindwalker August 31st 08 20:28

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Im on the last 40+ pages of "Dead Beat" and I have already picked up "White Night". Like KoshN I am waiting for Small Favors to come out in paperback.

KoshN September 9th 08 20:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonn (Post 325894)
I missed the very last episode that aired for the show on TV so I figured I could Netflix it. I forgot that the SciFi channel F'ed with the order of the episodes so the disc I got had all the episodes that I had already seen. Now I'm on the fence... I don't know if I want to buy the box set or just let it go.

After you watch the show, read the books. Then, you'll never want to go back to the show. I liked the show when I first saw it, but after reading the first four books, it's obvious that they changed so many things to make the show (some truly needless changes), that the two are not really compatible.

Storm Front (The Dresden Files, Book 1)
by Jim Butcher
Publication Date: April 1, 2000
ISBN-10: 0451457811
ISBN-13: 978-0451457813
Price: $7.99

Fool Moon (The Dresden Files, Book 2)
by Jim Butcher
Publication Date: January 1, 2001
ISBN-10: 0451458125
ISBN-13: 978-0451458124
Price: $7.99

Grave Peril (The Dresden Files, Book 3)
by Jim Butcher
Publication Date: September 1, 2001
ISBN-10: 0451458443
ISBN-13: 978-0451458445
Price: $7.99

Summer Knight: (The Dresden Files, Book 4)
by Jim Butcher
Publication Date: September 3, 2002
ISBN-10: 0451458923
ISBN-13: 978-0451458926
Price: $7.99

Death Masks (The Dresden Files, Book 5)
by Jim Butcher
Publication Date: August 5, 2003
ISBN-10: 0451459407
ISBN-13: 978-0451459404
Price: $7.99

Blood Rites (The Dresden Files, Book 6)
by Jim Butcher
Publication Date: August 3, 2004
ISBN-10: 0451459873
ISBN-13: 978-0451459879
Price: $7.99

Dead Beat (The Dresden Files, Book 7)
by Jim Butcher
Publication Date: May 2, 2006
ISBN-10: 045146091X
ISBN-13: 978-0451460912
Price: $7.99

Proven Guilty (The Dresden Files, Book 8)
by Jim Butcher
Publication Date: February 6, 2007
ISBN-10: 0451461037
ISBN-13: 978-0451461032
Price: $7.99

White Night (The Dresden Files, Book 9)
by Jim Butcher
Publication Date: February 5, 2008
ISBN-10: 045146155X
ISBN-13: 978-0451461551
Price: $7.99

Small Favor (The Dresden Files, Book 10)
by Jim Butcher
Publication Date: April 1, 2008 (Hardcover. It just came out.)
ISBN-10: 0451461894
ISBN-13: 978-0451461896
Price: $14.37



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Originally Posted by Demonn (Post 325894)
I was watching Deadwood the other day and the guy who played Dresden turned up in it. He was a hired gun that shot a cornish worker in a bar & then later he got his throat slit by Swaringen. At least the guy is getting work.

Did you notice that when he was talking to Bianca in flashback in Storm Front, that he slipped into his native English accent? That's be like Hugh Laurie accidentally slipping into his native accent in House M.D. :eek: :eek: :eek: Paul Blackthorne also appeared in an episode of Monk (Mr. Monk and the Leper).

Demonn September 11th 08 19:04

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Since I'm looking for a new book series to pick up I just might check those out. Brisinger is coming out soon but I could probably fit one in before it gets here. :thumbsup:

Demonn September 21st 08 22:55

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I got the first 3 books and was able to read two before Brisinger came out. ;)

I guess they turned each book into a single episode... that kinda pisses me off since there's so much story being shoved into a 40 some minute episode. And as I'm reading I'm trying to compare it to whichever episode I can remember it being from... by the time I get to the end of the book there's a different ending anyway. I mean... I like the surprise but at the same time it's a little disappointing.

Murphy is a blonde... that I like more. :drool:

So, yeah... I liked what I've read so far & I ordered the rest of the books. Well at least up till 9 since I'm getting paperback ones.

rhyta September 26th 08 08:31

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There are two graphic novels coming out in October, Welcome to the Jungle and Backup. Jungle is a prequel to Storm front over multiple issues.

Backup is from the viewpoint of Thomas Raith.....spoiler



Dresden's brother is watching out for him in this one.

Next spring book # 11 Turncoat will be coming out! :thumbsup:

Demonn October 4th 08 13:46

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Having just read book 3 I know who Thomas Raith is. :p I got a little sick of book 3 at certain points but I liked the ending. And I didn't like Susan so I'm glad she's a vamp now... or whatever she is.

Bianca... dead. Didn't see that coming because in the show they were buddies..... sex budies. :p

KoshN October 14th 08 17:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonn (Post 329614)
Having just read book 3 I know who Thomas Raith is. :p I got a little sick of book 3 at certain points but I liked the ending. And I didn't like Susan so I'm glad she's a vamp now... or whatever she is.

Susan grows on you. ;) Murphy, too. Wait 'till you get through Book 5.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonn (Post 329614)
Bianca... dead. Didn't see that coming because in the show they were buddies..... sex budies. :p

Yeah, kinda different from in Book 3, when she's bent on Harry's destruction, eh? Given that, what are the odds he'd have given her permission to come into his place? Bob's reaction in the TV series was true to form.

Plus, in the books, Bianca's a completely inhuman monster in a flesh mask, and Harry's seen what's underneath Red Court vampire flesh masks, including Bianca's. In the TV series, Bianca transforms into a really nasty looking humanoid (full black, eyes; fangs, etc.) but nothing like the slimy, large, bat-like creature with flabby wings and dripping Red Court vampire narcotic venom like in the books.

KoshN October 14th 08 18:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonn (Post 329023)
Murphy is a blonde... that I like more. :drool:

Susan as a blonde (in the TV series), I like more. I like that actress. Ditto for the one who played Bianca. :D

If I were going to cast a brunette as Susan, I'd pick Alicia Coppola (from Jericho).

Demonn October 16th 08 13:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KoshN (Post 330349)
Susan grows on you. ;) Murphy, too. Wait 'till you get through Book 5.

Just finished 6 last night... I like Susan more now but since they're not together I kinda want him to hook up with Murphy. It feels like they're bonding. :p

kincaid is a cool character... I'm looking forward to seeing him some more.

Mouse is a stupid name for a dog. ;)

KoshN October 17th 08 05:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonn (Post 330534)
Just finished 6 last night... I like Susan more now but since they're not together I kinda want him to hook up with Murphy. It feels like they're bonding. :p

kincaid is a cool character... I'm looking forward to seeing him some more.

Mouse is a stupid name for a dog. ;)

Good grief Speedy Gonzales, you passed me right up! I haven't even had time to crack Book 6 open since I last posted, and am only 15 pages into it.

Kincaid, the Archive's (Ivy's) driver from Book 5? He shows up in Book 6? ...or were you talking about Book 5 there? I know he was going to hook Harry up with the guy who makes those special incendiary shotgun shells. Naah, don't tell me.

Where I am in Book 5, I can't see Harry and Murphy hooking up.

Demonn October 17th 08 20:23

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I had to go down to South Carolina for my cousin's wedding... 12 hours in the car both ways. ;)

Yeah... Kincaid is in Book 6. I guesss he put Harry in touch with that guy inbetween books because Harry just calls him out of the blue and he turns up in book 6. I won't give any more details on that. They give more story for Kincaid... ;)

When I read 6 I just got the feeling that Harry and Murphy were bonding... now I started 7 and their interaction is weird. Like maybe Harry should ask her out but he's to stupid to think about it. Maybe Murphy is playing head games with him or something. Keep in mind I'm just reading between the lines. They don't make out in book 6 or anything.

There's a pretty good twist in 6 also. Enjoy that one. :p

Demonn October 28th 08 02:07

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Well I liked 7 the most so far. I love it when they bring in the White Council.

Demonn November 25th 08 06:00

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Well now I'm all cought up and waiting for the next book... I hate that.

KoshN November 25th 08 12:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonn (Post 332910)
Well now I'm all caught up and waiting for the next book... I hate that.

If I read 'em that quickly, I wouldn't enjoy 'em. It'd be kind of like wolfing down a favorite meal. Had to force myself not to race through "The Passing of the Techno-mages" because there was nothing more after that and I didn't want it to be over too quickly. I'm currently about 3/4ths of the way through "Blood Rites" (Book 6) and was disappointed at how easily Mavra was dispatched and how she never even tried to use magic against Harry, Murphy & Kincaid (so we got no sense of Ebenezer shutting down her powers.). I left off at the point where Ebenezer is beginning to come clean with Harry.

I'm seeing what you mentioned about the warm-up between Harry and Murphy.

Demonn November 26th 08 16:59

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Ohh... I took enough time to enjoy them. If I read something I like sometimes I read the page over & over before moving on & since I'm done now I can always go backand re-read certain spots. I've moved on to the Codex Alera books & I'm starting to think that I don't like them. Guess I should of just bought the first book & went from there.

I'm hoping that Ebenezer eventually retires and Dresden becomes the next Blackstaff. He could go up against the Merlin all he wants then. ;)

Kincaid says something about how Mavra wouldn't go down that easy. I think it was Kincaid. ;)



KEEP READING...

Dresden does hook up with somebody... :p

You haven't got to the part where Harry gets a new job offer. :p

Thomas finds a way to cheat the vampire system.

& Harry gets an apprentice.

KoshN November 26th 08 17:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonn (Post 332937)
I'm hoping that Ebenezer eventually retires and Dresden becomes the next Blackstaff. He could go up against the Merlin all he wants then. ;)

I don't think Harry would like that, being the Blackstaff.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonn (Post 332937)
Kincaid says something about how Mavra wouldn't go down that easy. I think it was Kincaid. ;)

I guess you mean that it was Kincaid who said that, right?...not that Kincaid was the one who made the difference. Ebenezer was the one who was shutting down her powers, and probably the reason she went only for conventional means... Renfields, darkhounds, that anti-personnel mine, and her traditional Black Court vampire abilities.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonn (Post 332937)
KEEP READING...

Dresden does hook up with somebody... :p

You haven't got to the part where Harry gets a new job offer. :p

Thomas finds a way to cheat the vampire system.

& Harry gets an apprentice.

Oooh, appetizers! :)

ps.Was it ever said what breed of dog the notch-eared puppy is?

Demonn November 27th 08 05:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KoshN (Post 332938)
I don't think Harry would like that, being the Blackstaff.

He might like it. He could do whatever he wanted and the council couldn't do crap to him.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KoshN (Post 332938)
I guess you mean that it was Kincaid who said that, right?...not that Kincaid was the one who made the difference. Ebenezer was the one who was shutting down her powers, and probably the reason she went only for conventional means... Renfields, darkhounds, that anti-personnel mine, and her traditional Black Court vampire abilities.

She was waiting for Harry to show up... & thanks to Ebenezer she couldn't really fight back. All I'm saying is that somebody implied that Mavra wouldn't be stupid enough to go out like that. I'm pretty sure it was Kincaid that said that to Harry. I could give you more details but I don't want to ruin any of the newer books for you. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by KoshN (Post 332938)
ps.Was it ever said what breed of dog the notch-eared puppy is?

Elaine calls it a Temple Dog in White Knight... He gets BIG. ;)

KoshN November 27th 08 15:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonn (Post 332979)
He might like it. He could do whatever he wanted and the council couldn't do crap to him.

Yeah, you've got a point there. Morgan would no longer be a thorn in the side for Harry.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonn (Post 332979)
Elaine calls it a Temple Dog in White Knight... He gets BIG. ;)

http://whitedogballads.blogspot.com/...emple-dog.html

??? Could be.

KoshN December 2nd 08 11:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonn (Post 332979)
She was waiting for Harry to show up... & thanks to Ebenezer she couldn't really fight back. All I'm saying is that somebody implied that Mavra wouldn't be stupid enough to go out like that. I'm pretty sure it was Kincaid that said that to Harry. I could give you more details but I don't want to ruin any of the newer books for you. ;)

Ah, it was in Book #6 "Blood Rites" (which I finished today, Dec. 1, 2008.) on page 368. Kincaid implies that it probably wasn't Mavra that they killed, but some flunky vamp dressed as Mavra, who Mavra paraded out to fool Harry and the rest, and that Mavra is likely still around.

In fact, there are three nasties listed at the end that are still around and will likely be trouble later:

Mavra (I thought that was too easy!)
He Who Walks Behind (unkillable)
and
Lasciel (the Fallen Angel, still able to touch Harry from her prison in the coin buried two feet down in the concrete of Harry's lab and surrounded by half a dozen warding spells)


Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonn (Post 332979)
Elaine calls it a Temple Dog in White Knight... He gets BIG. ;)

Hence on the last page of Book #6...

Harry (to Thomas): "Hey. Why did you get Large Breed Puppy Chow?" :lol:

Demonn December 2nd 08 22:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KoshN (Post 333162)
Harry (to Thomas): "Hey. Why did you get Large Breed Puppy Chow?" :lol:

Yeah... it gets BIG.

In Proven Guilty Charity Carpenter says, "He looks something like a Caucasian." & then adds... "It's a dog bred in the Soviet Union in the Caucasus Mountains for use in secured military installations. It's one of the only breeds that grow so large. But they tend to be a great deal more aggressive than your dog."

It's weird because I went looking for that and turned right to the page. Found it without really looking. :p

According to Elaine in White Knight Temple Dogs are very rare. He basically got the real version of one of those stone dogs that smelled the blood on his hand in book 4. They're incredibly loyal to their masters and they have magical powers of their own.

In the Thomas spin off book he says Mouse can understand human speech.

I'm getting the feeling that him and Morgan are gonna become friends in the new book. The Merlin is the guy who's coming down on Harry the most. Morgan tried to provoke him on the Merlin's behalf.

KoshN December 3rd 08 04:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonn (Post 333230)
They're incredibly loyal to their masters and they have magical powers of their own.

Ooh, I'm looking forward to this.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonn (Post 333230)
In the Thomas spin off book he says Mouse can understand human speech.

The Thomas spin off book? What??? What are you talking about? ISBNs please.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonn (Post 333230)
I'm getting the feeling that him and Morgan are gonna become friends in the new book.

Well, that'll certainly be different.


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