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hypatia September 4th 10 00:33

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I think there was a technical glitch a long time ago.

vacantlook September 4th 10 18:24

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Originally Posted by hypatia (Post 364784)
I think there was a technical glitch a long time ago.

Yup. The board used to be run using different software. It was during that time that most of these episode discusion threads were made. Then the board software was changed and something happened during the conversion of all the old threads into the new software that caused the titles of the polls to get messed up. I don't know if it also impacted any of the previous votes cast for the poll of any given episode or not.

JoeD80 September 8th 10 17:00

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Originally Posted by FlyingCircus (Post 364783)
Does that mean interspecies-coupling was spreading?

Don't think that's what he meant. The species of Babylon 5 can't create hybrid children without genetic manipulation, which is why Delenn had to go through the Chrysalis to conceive a child with a human.

Boredom January 26th 11 05:22

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Originally Posted by FlyingCircus (Post 364783)
I haven't seen the episode in quite a while, but didn't Daniel also say that his party was concerned about the purity of the human race? Does that mean interspecies-coupling was spreading?

At which, Sheridan retorted that it's just PR. The real reason was the Alliance restriction of outright unprovoked wars, especially that of expansion.

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Originally Posted by maneth (Post 315566)
Indeed. It would be interesting to know, because particle beams would probably not make the world dangerous to visit for short periods. That said, the brothers didn't seem to wear any hazmat protection.

I don't know whether the war at 500 was the Great Burn, but if it was, then the reason for other races (and human colonies) abandonment of Earth was in line with what the monks discussed, their xenophobic attitude.

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Originally Posted by FlyingCircus (Post 364783)
Does that mean interspecies-coupling was spreading?

Don't think that's what he meant. The species of Babylon 5 can't create hybrid children without genetic manipulation, which is why Delenn had to go through the Chrysalis to conceive a child with a human.

And they had different sets of genitals too (not that THAT can't be overcome, knowing that people will fuck their hands, doorknob, bicycle, cat, and whatnot). Londo was shown to have his "penis" slammed during a card game. And a species (Drazi?) in Call to Arms had his genitals somewhere around his elbow.


Oh, and one thing that nagged me a bit was the nova. Why the sun would went nova within 1 million years? The way the story goes, it's a natural occurrence. But the sun, barring injury and illness, may live for another 5 billion years.

vacantlook January 27th 11 01:08

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Originally Posted by Boredom (Post 367474)
Oh, and one thing that nagged me a bit was the nova. Why the sun would went nova within 1 million years? The way the story goes, it's a natural occurrence. But the sun, barring injury and illness, may live for another 5 billion years.

Sol going nova in the episode is not natural, or at least not normal. The future-human's computer specifically notes that there are "atypical solar emissions". Something very unusual was going on with the sun, whether that be some unusual natural phenomenon or if it was the result of someone purposefully doing something to the sun.

JoeD80 January 27th 11 17:52

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As jms said, "And what if you, say, interfered substantially with the mass of the sun by, say, causing a series of jump points to open up *inside* the sun across several days?"

Galahad January 30th 11 11:10

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Originally Posted by JoeD80 (Post 367500)
As jms said, "And what if you, say, interfered substantially with the mass of the sun by, say, causing a series of jump points to open up *inside* the sun across several days?"

I agree with that analysis of course... but it always made me wonder why in any of the wars, the younger races didn't use that as a means of taking out their enemies.

Sure it would be outlawed because destroying an entire star system is by definition a weapon of mass destruction... but surely somebody out there would be xenophobic enough to consider it. While jump coordinates need to be accurate enough for actual transition when a ship is entering a planetary body's atmosphere (Endgame), the mass of a star is pretty big and provided someone had a large enough fleet mobilised, they could probably do some serious damage to their enemy's star.

It's very possible of course that someone did exactly that to the Dilgar.

Lennier's Tears March 2nd 15 03:39

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Meh. I'm going to be dissenter here and say I'm not crazy about this episode. There are bits in it that I love, but I am mostly unimpressed.

I like the non-corporeal, Vorlon-like future human collecting some Earth history. I love the encounter suit, seen in Galahad's avatar :) It makes me happy.

I like Delenn showing up to that news broadcast just to say that Sheridan was a good man. In general, I like the idea and setup of that segment, but I don't love the execution. Also, I'd kind of hope that that TV format isn't in use anymore by the 24th century. How unbelievably boring.

The Great Burn is kind of a cool idea, but I'm not on board with the long slow recovery. Even with Rangers helping out, it's taken 500 years for humankind to even come close to re-inventing the gasoline engine? While the rest of the galaxy just goes about their business? Mehh.

It's possible I'm just bitter that the fourth season is over :p

JonFrain March 2nd 15 23:05

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Not a fan.

Mororless March 8th 15 11:07

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Originally Posted by Lennier's Tears (Post 451241)
The Great Burn is kind of a cool idea, but I'm not on board with the long slow recovery. Even with Rangers helping out, it's taken 500 years for humankind to even come close to re-inventing the gasoline engine? While the rest of the galaxy just goes about their business? Mehh.

The impression I got wasn't just that Earth was "sent back to the stone age" by a nuclear war but that the war itself created a reaction against technology and outside influence that's taken along time to fall away.

You could argue as well that we don't know that nobody did anything to help, maybe they did and maybe the non xenophobic population that survived moved off world with those who remained being from Daniels side thus unwilling to accept help or leave.


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