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maneth September 17th 07 09:41

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Yeah, and if that isn't hypocrisy, I don't know what is. :p

I still think that by and large organized religion has been the direct or indirect cause of more evil than good in the world, although I don't question the good it may do in individual cases. I don't agree with Marx on much, but I do think religion is the opium of the masses. However, any conviction when taken to extremes is bad, including secular humanism.

Obviously we don't have mindwiping yet (and I personally hope we never will), so it's hard to say what the implications of such would really be for a particular individual.

Clark Kent September 17th 07 17:18

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My favorite stand-alone episode of the five-year run.

maneth September 18th 07 13:24

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Yeah. Don't get me wrong: even though I don't have much time for religion myself, I love this episode. It's just so incredibly human and well acted and written. Not quite my favorite, but definitely on the shortlist.

Estelyn September 4th 10 21:02

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It took me the rewatching of this episode on DVD to realize that Brother Edward was played by the same actor as Grima Wormtongue in LotR. This role is definitely subtler, and his acting makes the episode excellent.

I like the way the newscast is used to broach the topic of mindwiping as punishment for crime. A seemingly unrelated broadcast topic introduces the episode theme.

Many very deep and profound questions are raised, questions that few people stop to ponder in real daily life. Forgiveness is a difficult matter. One question raised is, is the death of personality an inhumane punishment? Another is, "Is there enough forgiveness?" And very important, "Where does revenge end and justice begin?"

Like Sheridan in the Sebastian episode, we see Edward as another torture victim who is fixed in the crucifixion position.

It is rather convenient to have a telepath on station who is not bound by Psi Corps rules, isn't it?!

hypatia September 4th 10 22:01

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Indeed. :)

It's also good to keep an eye on their video broadcasts. They usually have some significance.

Jade Jaguar September 5th 10 03:16

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Estelyn, the actor is Brad Douriff, a fine actor who got an Oscar for his role in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.

hypatia September 5th 10 15:55

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And he has terrible luck with roles, I'd say. He gets employed, but "One Flew Over..." and Bab5 were two of the better roles he's had.

Speaking of which, would anyone know anything else that he might be in that might be pretty good? (Dune and LotR I am familiar with.)

vacantlook September 5th 10 18:00

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Douriff played a psychopathic, murderous Betazoid in a couple of episodes of Star Trek Voyager.

Jade Jaguar September 6th 10 00:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hypatia (Post 364812)
Speaking of which, would anyone know anything else that he might be in that might be pretty good? (Dune and LotR I am familiar with.)

Check out Wise Blood, directed by John Huston. Great film, he's the star. It came out on DVD about a year ago, or so.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080140/

hypatia September 6th 10 01:17

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Yea, I had heard he'd been on Voyager. I can't recall if I saw those episodes or not, so I probably didn't. I have noticed him ever since someone pointed out to me that "the B5 guy in that episode" was also that key character in "Cukoo's Nest".

The man can act.

Thanks for the movie suggestion, JJ. That looks like a rather different kind of film for John Huston, but I shall have to check it out sometime soon. I'm putting it on "the list". :)


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