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vacantlook May 31st 05 15:16

EpDis: The Coming Of Shadows
 
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vacantlook May 31st 05 15:19

Re: EpDis: The Coming Of Shadows
 
I think this episode is an excellent episode. We get major events like the death of the Centauri Emperor, the assassination of the Prime Minister, Londo and Refa plotting to get closer to controlling the throne, Londo calling on Morden to attack the Narn, Londo's dream in which he sees his death being shown in full, the Narn declaring war against the Centauri in response to the attack, the introduction of the Rangers, and the declaration from Kosh that it will all end in fire.

Very nice.

GKarsEye May 31st 05 15:35

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Anyone who doesn't love this episode and the series after watching this episode should just stop watching the series by this point.

hypatia May 31st 05 15:44

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I think this is the first "A" I've voted. I have not voted in a lot of them, though. In any event, it is one of the best.

RW7427 May 31st 05 16:09

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It gets an A from me! :) One of the best season 2 eps!

KoshFan May 31st 05 16:20

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This won a Hugo for a reason.

I love when Kosh comes to visit Turhan. He didn't have to do that; it begins to show Kosh's compassionate side. I also love Londo's dream, and his conversation with G'Kar. "I never thought I would be saying this, but: to the health of your emperor!"

But I have to say Turhan's beautiful speech in the observation dome is the one scene of Babylon 5 that I have seen the most. Sometimes when I'm feeling really depressed I fire the DVD player just to watch it. "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, and the future frightens us...."

RW7427 May 31st 05 17:29

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Yeah, the Vorlons always made it known that they didn't concern themselves with the affairs of younger races. (Unless of course it suits them to do so, like manipulating them and geneticaly altering them. ) Kosh's involvement with the Centauri emperor, G'Kar in his Dust to Dust dream, and of course Sheridan, shows that he's not like the rest of the Vorlons.

Chilli May 31st 05 19:36

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The strange thing is .. I didn't much care for this episode the first time I saw it. I also was WAY too young appreciate Babylon 5 properly at the time, so that probably is something that speaks for the episode's "adult" greatness, not against it, if the 12 year olds like my former self don't really get it that much. I completely adored it on rewatching.

But also, I only saw the crummy dubbed German version initially. Havin english *really* helped .. and the emperor having a Viennese accent rocked too. :p

RedHariedChick June 1st 05 02:13

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I must agree - this episode is one of the best. Simply superb.

RMcD June 1st 05 14:21

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Its the best up to this point.. But I think it raised the bar to a new level which B5 went on to exceed in later seasons, so in retrospect it almost doesn't seem as good as it should.

Its odd that JMS named not one but two alien characters in this episode after the actors who played them.. Maybe he got stuck for inspiration..


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