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admiraldave May 16th 05 21:04

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Yeah, the Stoner plot was weak. The guest actor was okay, it's just that particular plot dragged. Timov, however, rules. It's one of my small regrets about the show, that we never got her back for more verbal sparring.

RW7427 May 16th 05 21:08

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Yeah, I loved Timov! She was great! :D

vacantlook May 16th 05 21:51

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Yeah, I'm on the wagon of Timov-lovers too.

Springer May 17th 05 12:04

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I'm surprised that this episode isn't that popular. I found it smart, and one of the few examples of genuine humour in B5 (the other being Sic Transit Vir). I also didn't mind the Stoner plotline either, although I'm disapointed that the Talia/Garibaldi relationship didn't go anywhere. As for Talia, I prefer her to Lyta, I think Andrea Thompson is a much better actress than Pat Tallman. Its a shame that Talia's character was underdeveloped, and the only screen time she ever got was when an old flame came onto the station (at least that's the way it seemed sometimes, either an old flame or an old friend like Taro Isogi).

B5obsessive May 17th 05 12:21

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Great ep! B++ 'cos A's are reserved for the real mindblowers. Timov RULES! As a brown belt in the art of "verbal fencing" I bow to her prowess, the woman is pure venom! :lol: "A bitch like you WOULD know about breeding." *applause* I defend the Matt Stoner plot. The controlling Talia to breed more empaths bit. Think about what that means for a sec. :(*shudder* :( All in all great stuff.

GKarsEye May 17th 05 14:37

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As for Talia, I prefer her to Lyta, I think Andrea Thompson is a much better actress than Pat Tallman.

Agreed!

Lyta is better as a character simply because she's the one who's arc gets carried out to where the story needed it to go. She just happens to be the show's telepath when the most exciting events in the series happen.

But if you look at their work, Thompson is just such a stronger actress. For one thing- she can actually act! Tallman's delivery of jokes is so corny and obvious. She has no sense of grace and subtlety. Her only strong on-screen moments as an actress are at the end of season 5, when she's ultra-powerful badass, because that demands a lack of subtlety, and her sharp features and red hair help that image.

Andrea's Thompson's smooth, silky way of speaking and acting make the flirting with Garibaldi fun. Her sensuousness makes the Ironheart thread (which was just made-up to replace Tallman's absence in the first place) actually believable. Her dealing with that murderer (who was gonna get his brain wiped) was engaging and intense, wereas had Tallman done it it would have been awkward to watch.

RMcD May 17th 05 14:53

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There is an interview with Claudia Christian somewhere out there, in which she points out (to paraphrase) that Andrea Thompson brought a kind of vulnerable sexuality and helplessness to the role that wasn't there anywhere in the script.

I'm afraid I tend to agree with that assessment.. I find it annoying..

A_M_Swallow May 17th 05 17:47

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Yes, the station telepath was meant to be an action role, probably including physical fighting.

GKarsEye May 17th 05 17:59

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Yes, the station telepath was meant to be an action role, probably including physical fighting.

Well if that's true than it makes to hire a stuntperson like Pat Tallman.

Makes one wonder why they didn't hire another one like her and instead went with someone so different in Thompson.

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There is an interview with Claudia Christian somewhere out there, in which she points out (to paraphrase) that Andrea Thompson brought a kind of vulnerable sexuality and helplessness to the role that wasn't there anywhere in the script.

I'm afraid I tend to agree with that assessment.. I find it annoying..

Yeah, see, I like that a lot, I guess that's the difference.

And it's not as if Talia was some helpless damsel in distress- she exhibited a real attitude when she fought off Bester with the underground telepaths. Plus, her external demeanor could be very "ice queen," so the vulnerability played well off of it. It was a nice compliment to Ivanova's "tough as nails" personality and having that balance on the show was neat (as well as he third feminine element- a character becoming more "womanly"- Delenn).

A_M_Swallow May 17th 05 18:03

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Well if that's true than it makes to hire a stuntperson like Pat Tallman.

Makes one wonder why they didn't hire another one like her and instead went with someone so different in Thompson.


Possibly the studio wanted a sexy dumb blond.


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