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vacantlook March 30th 05 06:36

EpDis: Revelations
Episode 2.02

Refresher Links:
Lurker's Guide Main Page for Revelations
Lurker's Guide Extended Synopsis for Revelations

Jade Jaguar March 30th 05 07:07

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I voted good, but only because there are eps that are even better. For any other show, it would have been excellent.

vacantlook March 30th 05 07:23

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I think it's excellent -- not as excellent as other excellent episodes, but still really up there. I really love all of G'Kar's stuff in this episode. His flying a fighter craft at Z'ha'dum, the other Narn's sacrificing themselves so he can get away, G'Kar's trying to warn Sheridan and the Council, but their not seeing it as important as G'Kar (and Morden) sees the information. How would Delenn have reacted had she been actively sitting on the Council then instead of being indisposed when G'Kar presented the information, I wonder. And the scene of the Shadow ship blowing up the Narn cruiser just as it comes out of the jumppoint was great!

RMcD March 30th 05 11:03

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It's a good episode I suppose, although really its only purpose is to tie up all the loose threads left over from Chrysalis and impose the new status quo.

I find the character of Lizzy a little cringe-making, partly because she's completely dropped from the story after this. Her sole purpose seems to be to introduce the audience to the concept of Anna, but it still seems odd that Sheridan only mentions her again only once in 'There All the Honor Lies' (although perhaps not that surprising, given they hadn't spoken for 2 years prior to this).

We see the inside of hyperspace for the very first time in the series in this episode!! And it's also the first of Mary Kay Adams' 2 appearances as Na'Toth..

The bit I like most is G'Kar pleading to be taken seriously by the council.. If only they'd listened to him then, perhaps the shadow war would have started prematurely, and billions more people would have died. Poor G'Kar. :)

deaded March 30th 05 11:15

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I totally can't remember it. I'm going to go watch it now again before I vote.

Shaal Mayan March 30th 05 14:31

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C average for me the big downer here is Delenn coming out of her chrysalis and the beginning of her being a human with a partial bone on her head.Sad really she loses almost everything about her minbariness and alieness and it is the beginning here. :(

KoshFan March 30th 05 16:15

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Solid ep. I, too, am an immense fan of G'Kar's actions in this one -- when he talks to Londo about it you can see just how much seeing the Shadows has matured him. But then that maturity was always there, just a little buried underneath jingoistic bluster.

GKarsEye March 30th 05 16:17

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she loses almost everything about her minbariness

Other Minbari make the same claim. She proves them wrong with her actions in their civil war and by fighting the Shadows when they wouldn't.

I love this episode. To regurgitate JMS' own analogy, it's the beginning of G'Kar as Cassandra, warning everyone of the danger to come and being ignored. It's the perfect set-up to the most wrenching, heart-breaking moment of the series to me: Delenn revealing her foreknowledge of the Shadows to G'Kar.

I remember JMS also saying he included literary quotes to inspire people to read it. In that spirit, quoted from the Lurker's Guide page vacantlook linked, is W.B. Yeats' The Second Coming:

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of "Spiritus Mundi"
Troubles my sight: somewhere in the sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indigant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

RW7427 March 30th 05 16:38

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Now THIS is the ep that I can vote a C for because I don't like Sheridan's sister. :lol: I thought she was in Points of Departure. :o

GKarsEye March 30th 05 17:18

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I agree that she's the weak point of the ep, especially since sh's never mentioned again, especially when Clark threatens his parents.

But I do like him and Franklin saving Garibaldi's life with the alien device.

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