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vacantlook February 9th 05 04:04

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KoshFan February 9th 05 09:57

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I never thought much about this episode -- until I'd finished the series and then watched it again. A lot of foreshadowing and character development there....

Overall I liked it mostly because it started out slow and only gradually built, giving us a bit of a sense of how the station worked on the, oh, four or five weeks total that the world wasn't falling apart.

RMcD February 9th 05 12:54

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It's weird that B5 only produced two 2-parters in five years. I suppose that once the episodes became so heavily serialised, it just wasn't necessary..

A Voice in the Wilderness is a little slow, I think, especially towards the end - there isn't quite enough plot to spread it out. A couple of random thoughts: I like the way that the Mars revolt is slipped into the background, though it's actually a major blip on the B5 timeline - it helps give a sense that there's a big universe out beyond the station. And Lise Hampton - who'd have thought from this that she'd be making appearances right up to the end of S5?

It seems strange that G'Kar is absent, though there are some neat moments for the other characters.

Also, I'd never fully appreciated the extent to which this episode pays homage to the film Forbidden Planet until I saw it recently - everything from the Great Machine to certain CGI background shots.

I always laugh at the alien at the end who manages to learn English in the course of issuing an ultimatum - must have been tough on the actor.

This episode gets a B+ from me.

Shaal Mayan February 9th 05 13:04

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I give this on a C grade average nice setup for future story lines but the whole episode could have done in one .

KoshFan February 9th 05 16:25

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It's weird that B5 only produced two 2-parters in five years. I suppose that once the episodes became so heavily serialised, it just wasn't necessary.

I've always seen Messages From Earth/Point of No Return/Severed Dreams as a three-parter, since there's next to no intervening time between them.

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And Lise Hampton - who'd have thought from this that she'd be making appearances right up to the end of S5?

Ah, Babylon 5 -- where even insignificant extras can be catapulted into importance. Lise Hampton, Lt. Corwin, and best of all, Ta'Lon.

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It seems strange that G'Kar is absent

I was just noticing this myself. See my new thread....

GKarsEye February 9th 05 17:22

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I like Draal, this one much more than the blustering, slapstick one we see later.

The first thing I think of when I look at this episode is Londo. It's his last hurrah, last noble and "fun" adventure before entering the darkness that would consume the rest of his life. Once you've seen the series straight through, Londo in this episode takes on a whole new meaning- the first viewing, it's comical or silly. The second one, it's bittersweet.

Delenn continues to be pious and arrogant and annoying. I really don't like her as a person those first couple of seasons. After she hits bottom and claws her way on top and starts to kick ass, I'm in love with her.

What really bothers me about the Great Machine is that they didn't know it was there. There just happened to be one of the most powerful and mysterious devices in the galaxy sitting little right under the station and- oops- no one had the foggiest notion. Ok. :rolleyes:

A_M_Swallow February 9th 05 18:03

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What really bothers me about the Great Machine is that they didn't know it was there. There just happened to be one of the most powerful and mysterious devices in the galaxy sitting little right under the station and- oops- no one had the foggiest notion. Ok. :rolleyes:

That is simply good camouflage. If the Great Machine does not transmit and keeps its doors closed only a detailed survey would find it several miles underground.

The odd thing is that one of the Zathras brothers did not take Draal to Babylon 5.

hypatia February 9th 05 18:18

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The odd thing is that one of the Zathras brothers did not take Draal to Babylon 5.

Man, that never occured to me before. Maybe he didn't have a shuttle? :confused:

vacantlook February 9th 05 19:07

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The odd thing is that one of the Zathras brothers did not take Draal to Babylon 5.

I don't understand this statement. Why would a Zathras brother transport Draal to B5 from the Minbari homeworld? Do you mean why didn't a Zathras brother transport the dying Varn from the planet to the station instead of leaving it up to Ivanova and Sinclair to go down to the planet and bring him back?

hypatia February 9th 05 19:24

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That's what I assumed he meant, VL.


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