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vacantlook January 14th 05 23:03

EpDis: Eyes
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purplekosh66 January 14th 05 23:39

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I would have given this epside an "average" rating instead of the the "good" that I gave it, if it wasn't for the Motorcycle part of the story. I thought that was great!

I seem to recall seeing a thread about "Whatever happened to Mr. Garibaldi's Motorcycle"? I can't remember if it was here or on a different site. It did get some interesting responses. The one I liked best was: Garibaldi got caught speeding through the station on the bike, so it was impounded indefinitely! :lol:


vacantlook January 15th 05 01:20

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I'm on the complete other side, I didn't like the motorbike bit much. I do like the main story though.

We get another hard hit to the story in the way of there being people back home that are exceptionally manipulative of the government (in this instance, PsyCorps). We get more of the arc of Sinclair having been picked at the behest of the Minbari much to the anger of many other Earthforce personel. And we get to see Harriman Gray; I love his character. I've always wanted to know more about what his character eventually goes through later in the timeline of the story. I don't know if jms has any idea or if he even cares to think about it, but I'd sure love to see more. Harriman wasn't kind of in the middle of the spectrum. If Bester's on one end and season five Lyta's on the other, Harriman's in the middle. Matheson from Crusade was a similar position.

I do think Ben Zayn was overplayed in several spots, but I do like an ass of a character coming in and trying to take over because he's so ego driven that he thinks he deserves it. Of course, he was really nothing if not being played by Bester.

So, despite a few things I see as not to my taste, I still really really like the episode.

RMcD January 15th 05 05:50

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This is one of my favourite S1 epsiodes for some reason, though I'm not really sure if its deserving or not. I relish that actor's portrayal of Ben Zayne, especially where its completely OTT (or just theatrical?). I do think it could have been improved if the ending hadn't been so anticlimactic - one punch and its over! The Colonel should have hopped into a Starfury and pointed its cannons at C&C, holding the whole station to ransom.. or something :)
This is also the episode where Ivanova starts a bar brawl.. brilliant.
And the last one of the 22 to be filmed.

KoshFan January 15th 05 09:10

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A good summation episode, "what has gone before."

My favorite bit is Ben Zayne complaining about Kosh. Just what, if anything, was he planning to do?

RW7427 January 16th 05 14:15

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I like to watch this ep and call Ben Zayne names. :lol:

Jade Jaguar January 16th 05 22:08

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Do you think his middle initial is N?

KoshN January 16th 05 22:38

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A good summation episode, "what has gone before."

My favorite bit is Ben Zayne complaining about Kosh. Just what, if anything, was he planning to do?

It would have been very entertaining to have seen him try something against Kosh. Boy! Talk about a bad move! :eek: :lol:

GKarsEye January 16th 05 22:51

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I just love this episode because of that guy's ridiculous scenery chewing- all that scowling and evil eye stuff and huffin' 'n' puffin'. I am such a sucker for that stuff.

PillowRock January 17th 05 10:50

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This is also the episode where Ivanova starts a bar brawl.. brilliant.

Of course, that scene forces you to make a decision about how to interpret what is going on.

Do you want to believe what they are pretty clearly trying to establish, or do you want to believe your lieing eyes? ;) :D

Is Ivanova a seriously tough badass? It seems pretty clear that is what they pretty clearly trying to show when she basically takes on the entire bar and is winning when security arrives.

Or do you *look* at the parts of the fight that we actually see and conclude that *all* of these people are completely inept, and Ivanova is just slightly less clueless than the other drunks?

I generally go with what they are trying to establish, and ignore how badly staged and choreagraphed the brawl is. :cool:

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