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vacantlook March 1st 09 00:08

Re: EpDis: The Gathering
 
Heh! It is pretty fun that the Vorlon ships were visually designed off of the shape of garlic. Maybe that's why Vorlons are so secretive: they don't want people to smell their garlicy breath! Heh!

KoshFan March 1st 09 01:22

Re: EpDis: The Gathering
 
Ah, great! Urban, it's always fun to see a newbie's perspective on the series. I can see it again for the first time, vicariously...

crazyhorse March 1st 09 13:36

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Nice to see that you started with The Gathering Urban Roy :thumbsup:

While it is far from the best B5 it does set the scene nicely.This is no nice Federation of Planets but a group of aliens that hardly trust each other stuck together on a station.

I have to agree with you about Londo,my favourite character of the show :bolian:

I would suggest that you start your own thread to discuss the show if you want to avoid spoilers as these EpDis are full of them.I would also suggest avoiding most of the rest of the forum as spoilers are littered everywhere :lol:

You should be safe in NC-17,if you can call that place safe :devil:

Urban Roy March 1st 09 21:21

Re: EpDis: The Gathering
 
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Originally Posted by vacantlook (Post 337106)
I look forward to reading your thoughts as you watch the show. Thanks for posting them!

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Originally Posted by KoshFan (Post 337121)
Ah, great! Urban, it's always fun to see a newbie's perspective on the series. I can see it again for the first time, vicariously...

It's a pleasure! It's great for me to get some reaction from people who know what they are talking about. I get the feeling that this is the kind of show that is going to end up multilayered and convoluted so having somewhere I can discuss it is just fab. Trying to discuss this around the water cooler at work just gets me strange looks...

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Originally Posted by crazyhorse (Post 337161)
I would suggest that you start your own thread to discuss the show if you want to avoid spoilers as these EpDis are full of them.I would also suggest avoiding most of the rest of the forum as spoilers are littered everywhere :lol:

If no-one minds I'll keep posting on the individual threads for each episode as it seems the best place (and as a Newbie I'm not cocky enough to want to be starting my own threads). I am planning to avoid actually reading each EpDis until I have seen the episode in question to avoid the worst of the spoilers but I don't have the best memory so I'm sure that I''ll be fine.

Alexa April 21st 09 23:17

Re: EpDis: The Gathering
 
I am watching The Gathering now, and I have a question...or really more of a puzzled observation. When Kosh`s ship is docking at the station, control of his ship is turned over to C&C. Yet later in the series much is made of how big a mystery his 'living ship' is. So, how did they control and dock it?

Also....something that has struck me since I first started watching...well, I guess it was years ago. I think JMS liked to play with our prejudices a little. He made Londo a sympathetic character at first, and G`Kar the villian....then switched them about (at least partially). I think people were very ready to accept that the more 'human' looking Londo was a good guy, and the very 'alien' G`Kar was the evil. I wonder how some reacted when they were 'switched'?

ETA I am also very glad they changed Delenns chin and softened her look somewhat. It was somewhat...odd looking, though that just could be because I am used to the later version of her.

Sindatur April 21st 09 23:53

Re: EpDis: The Gathering
 
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Originally Posted by Alexa (Post 340850)
I am watching The Gathering now, and I have a question...or really more of a puzzled observation. When Kosh`s ship is docking at the station, control of his ship is turned over to C&C. Yet later in the series much is made of how big a mystery his 'living ship' is. So, how did they control and dock it?

Also....something that has struck me since I first started watching...well, I guess it was years ago. I think JMS liked to play with our prejudices a little. He made Londo a sympathetic character at first, and G`Kar the villian....then switched them about (at least partially). I think people were very ready to accept that the more 'human' looking Londo was a good guy, and the very 'alien' G`Kar was the evil. I wonder how some reacted when they were 'switched'?

ETA I am also very glad they changed Delenns chin and softened her look somewhat. It was somewhat...odd looking, though that just could be because I am used to the later version of her.

Was it actual control of the ship, or was the ship simply towed in

Nice observation about G'Kar and Londo, I wouldn't be surprised if you're right. I was surprised to see them changing roles on the first evidence of it

Delenn, I don't seem to recall thinking she looked that strange on the airing of the original Pilot, but, yea, definitely her look in the Gathering is very strange now, after becoming so accustomed to her later look. So, that may be it (or4 I may just not remember how odd she looked on the original airing of the Pilot)

I almost can't wait until the normal TV season ends in May, I've been looking forward to having the time to start the series over myself

KoshN April 22nd 09 00:05

Re: EpDis: The Gathering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vacantlook (Post 337119)
Heh! It is pretty fun that the Vorlon ships were visually designed off of the shape of garlic. Maybe that's why Vorlons are so secretive:

Oh there's the pot calling the kettle black!



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Originally Posted by vacantlook (Post 337119)
they don't want people to smell their garlicy breath! Heh!

All the better to keep those insulting Shadows away.

Alexa April 22nd 09 01:22

Re: EpDis: The Gathering
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sindatur (Post 340854)
Was it actual control of the ship, or was the ship simply towed in

Nice observation about G'Kar and Londo, I wouldn't be surprised if you're right. I was surprised to see them changing roles on the first evidence of it

Delenn, I don't seem to recall thinking she looked that strange on the airing of the original Pilot, but, yea, definitely her look in the Gathering is very strange now, after becoming so accustomed to her later look. So, that may be it (or4 I may just not remember how odd she looked on the original airing of the Pilot)

I almost can't wait until the normal TV season ends in May, I've been looking forward to having the time to start the series over myself

She (Takashima (sp?) says "please surrender control of your vessel to our central computer on my mark" (I just reversed to make sure :)) So, I am puzzled. It is a small thing really, and I don`t want to nit pick the show. Even JMS couldn`t have every little detail ironed out before the rest of the eps aired, although I think he has managed it the best of any series I have seen.

Thanks for the praise. I don`t take it lightly. From what I have read here, your posters certainly know their stuff! I think this is the right place to expand my knowledge!

As for Delenn...she seems much more 'spotty' and her chin is best described as 'agressive' ;)

I am watching "The Gathering" (newer version). And I have read the first couple posts here
http://www.b5tv.com/showthread.php?t=9892

and i`m still a bit confused as to the order of the series and the movies. I tend to watch things chronologically when possible, regardless of when they were made, so I guess The Gathering is my starting point. I have watched the series many times, the movies less as I didn`t get them until much later.

Jan April 22nd 09 02:01

Re: EpDis: The Gathering
 
I think it's just a matter of one computer talking to each other but no data was exchanged that didn't pertain to docking maneuvers. I'd imagine that the Station would insist on taking control to ensure that rotation was matched completely. That there were other aspects to the ship, like the skin that could communicate and morph into weapons when a threat was perceived wouldn't be something that could be 'noticed' by a machine such as the docking computers. That required actually seeing the ship up close and personal by a sentient being.

Jan

vacantlook April 22nd 09 02:34

Re: EpDis: The Gathering
 
Since docking isn't quite as instant as we see it (with it being, one a dramatic show, and two, only 40-some minutes long, we don't get the entirety of the docking procedure depicted), maybe when a ship first arrives at the station and is assigned a spot in the docking queue, a docking program is uploaded to a ship's system to enable the station's computer system to adjust the ship's movement -- thinks like, rotate ship however many degrees, adjust trust this way and that, etc -- so that the ship can dock. Ships, like shuttles, that are standard for shipping passengers between a starliner or battleship to the station might come preloaded with the software.


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