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maneth September 8th 12 07:09

Re: A Thought About the Vorlons
 
The Minbari eventually reach the same status as humans do, becoming more Vorlon-like, although whether that happens before, after, or around the same time as for humans, that's hard to say. Of course, there are at least two humans who reach that state before the rest of us do, Jason Ironheart and John Sheridan. Ironheart says as much when he goes, "see you in a million years". This seems to mean that humans as energy beings will be effectively immortal.

KoshN November 30th 12 20:49

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Originally Posted by RW7427 (Post 400847)
I wonder if the Vorlons would have left anything for the Minbari, considering out of all the younger races it seemed the Minbari had the most contact with the Vorlons, or at least had more knowledge of them than the other races.

I think Lyta's "we" probably included the Minbari.

Admiral Beckham December 11th 12 00:13

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If the Lost Tales are Canon, where did the "ISA 1" come from? Sheridan openly stated that it was from Vorlon technology that was "left over". This implies that at some point Humans did get Vorlon tech from either Vorlon Prime or possibly the destroyed listening post or the biggie; that being Lyta wasn't killed during the Teep War but rather went back to Vorlon Prime and is feeding Sheridan or whomever Vorlon tech.

James

Jan December 11th 12 16:03

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The Minbari had access to a fair amount of Vorlon tech. Remember, the White Stars were a combination of Vorlon and Minbari technology. There was also almost certainly a Vorlon ship or two damaged in all of the aggressions before they left for the Rim. Chances are the ISA took some of them and retrofitted them.

Jan

KoshN December 11th 12 17:29

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Originally Posted by Jan (Post 425981)
The Minbari had access to a fair amount of Vorlon tech. Remember, the White Stars were a combination of Vorlon and Minbari technology. There was also almost certainly a Vorlon ship or two damaged in all of the aggressions before they left for the Rim. Chances are the ISA took some of them and retrofitted them.

Jan

Hope none of the Drakh got any of those.

vacantlook December 11th 12 22:18

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I also wouldn't have been surprised if Kosh had set up some sort of special high tech package to be delivered to humans at some predetermined future point in humanity's advancement. Kosh did tend to act outside of normal Vorlon paterns and expectations.

Republibot 3.0 September 18th 13 22:29

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When the Drakh escaped Z'ha'dum shortly prior to its destruction, they took all the shadowtech they could cary, so there's lots of that around. The Psicorps books tell us that the Technomages themselves are shadowtech (or dependent upon it) and didn't want to be used for evil purposes. We know from the unproduced scripts for Crusade that there was at least one Earthforce secret base using shadowtech (And presumably they made the Shadow Omegas). The Franklin movie was going to involve Shadowtech, so basically the galaxy is lousy with the stuff.

I really think there's probably a ton of Vorlon tech, too. Not counting their homeworld, or the Telepaths, there were an unspecified number of bases and outposts, there are fragments of ships that were destroyed, there was Kosh II (Gezundheit)'s transport, there was something on Venus (Don't recall exactly what), There's the Thirdspace device, or was. As has been pointed out, there's whatever info the Vorlons shared with the Minbari in the construction of the White Stars, and this was obviously useful as they extrapolated it in the construction of the Excalibur.

I don't think there's any less Vorlontech floating around than there is Shadowtech. The differences are these:
1) The Shadows, by their nature, were sloppy, and the Vorlons, by their nature, were fastidious.
2) Shadowtech seems to be deliberately invasive, and hence is probably fairly easy to use. Vorlon tech is probably more discrete, and evasive, and probably doesn't WANT to be used.


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